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we're going to talk about flying saucers

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thank you

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today the office of the Director of

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National Intelligence released their

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unclassified version of the annual

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unidentified aerial phenomena or UAP

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report required by the National Defense

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authorization act for the fiscal year

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2022 the report is available on the odni

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website but you can also find the link

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on our DOD press release which we put

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out a short while ago and which is also

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posted on defense.gov and with that I

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will take your questions Randy thank you

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sir on the 2022 UAP report there's

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366 reports since July 2022 the majority

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of those originate from U.S Navy and Air

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Force aviators and operators who

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witnessed them during their operational

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duties and reported them to the previous

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task force and now Arrow Through

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official channels what are those

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official channels that the Pentagon has

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set up for better information sharing on

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this topic yeah thanks very much the

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question uh so first of all let me just

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say right up top that the department

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wants to thank the office of the

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Director of National Intelligence for

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leading the collaborative effort to

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produce this report as well as all the

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other agencies that that supported it I

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would encourage you to as I'm sure you

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are read that report for any type of

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detailed information broadly speaking

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when it comes to the types of processes

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and procedures that have been

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established the the Aero office as you

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closely worked with each of the service

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branches to come up with a streamlined

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reporting system to be able to to

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collect that information and then in

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addition to the military branches is

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also working with the interagency so

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organizations like NOAA the Coast Guard

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Department of the energy just to name a

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few and so by establishing those

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reporting procedures what it does and I

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it allows the collection of data and

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more data allows us to be a little bit

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more rigorous in terms of how we go

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after investigating these incidents so

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hopefully that yeah it does and I

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appreciate the transparency here just a

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quick follow-up the report says that

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regarding health concerns so far no

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Encounters of UAB have been aligned with

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serious anomalous Health incidents

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Congress pushed you guys and mandated

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odni and the Pentagon to look into that

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military aviators about anomalous Health

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incidents is there anything you guys can

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share about what those Health incidents

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ended up being if they were not UAP yeah

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provide I'd encourage you to take a look

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at the report I would say broadly

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speaking I think one of the key points

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in this report you know given given the

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potential uh Hazard that uaps do present

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notably there's been no reported

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collisions of of military aircraft or

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U.S aircraft rather and uaps but in

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terms of those specifics I'd I'd refer

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you back what's up everybody pretty

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pretty interesting hey how he keeps

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saying you know for further detail you

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can go to the report but

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you know I don't think there are details

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in the report uh but but thanks for

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joining us we're going to go over the

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report a little bit and some other

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sick I tested Posse for covid so I'm

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doing the best I can right now

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um and I have a couple guests with us

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and who we have today is first Mr Graham

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how are you sir

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hello Sean I'm sorry to hear you you're

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under the weather uh that's okay I

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appreciate it thanks for being here and

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we also have Mr disclosure team Vinnie

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how are you sir I'm good man thank you

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for having me and yeah I hope you feel

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love when people feel bad for me and I

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feel better and all that kind of stuff

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so that's why I said it no I appreciate

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you coming it's been kind of uh like um

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media on the ndaa language and

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everything and then I was thinking in

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the back of my head like I bet they're

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just waiting for the report to come out

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sure enough the report comes out and

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about it and and all that kind of stuff

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quick thoughts from you guys on the

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report or anything else that you want to

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discuss whether it be the media that

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came after it or anything so so Graham

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what are your initial thoughts on it it

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was a little bit of a left eye really it

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was one of those kind of management

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reports that uh has a lot of wording in

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unidentified claims 143 that hadn't been

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identified from the preliminary report

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just the fact that they existed

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substantial amount of ones that weren't

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identified this time but there was very

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little kind of meat beyond that you know

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to actually get a teeth into and try to

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discuss and analyze uh all that in the

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qualified report but if that's going to

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future ones then you know it's not

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pointless looking forward to Future

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reports but if they're going to be the

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same as this then it's just a box

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ticking exercise on behalf of the

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officials to say right yeah we've

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a it is like a box ticking exercise to

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public and then they move on

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that when this report was first mandated

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branches cooperating sounds like it's a

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of negativity it's too easy to to be

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negative about this but I think anyone

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going into this should have really kept

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their expectations low as far as

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data that you know feeds what we really

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charitable it is effectively a

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bar the figures and the rest it is a

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completely new set of Staff as Vinnie

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the groundwork done but hopefully the

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future ones aren't going to be like this

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particular report to see whether this is

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going to be how they go forward yeah

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Taylor we know now was a part of that I

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collisions how many had uh radio

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assessment was a little more detail on

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the the interesting ones you know but I

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Graham's Point why it seems like kind of

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a cut and paste job with these is

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you know this is no different than

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book and everything when they'd come out

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thing was so plain you know you

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it was basically nothing you know and

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you had no idea what was actually in the

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Blue Book files what were which were

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quite revelatory cases you know

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that goes and you know to your point

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Vinnie you know I I can't speak for

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anyone else so I want to say we should

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yeah I'm not going to go in here

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expecting and that they're going to say

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the spaceship was there and that they

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put bodies over here and we found it and

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here's your preliminary assessment you

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how it works one of the reasons is a

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part of their job is public relations as

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well like it or not like so when they're

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their language as to not give any little

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boring yeah so that that can't happen so

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that the most people can say is well

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this is how many were unidentified

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that's all I know yeah I think the

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important Point as well is did this you

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know reach the Mandate of what Congress

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asked for in fiscal year 2022 and it

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probably did so the real test is that

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they take what's now passed into law for

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the new ndaa and Elevate the results for

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this upcoming report in June but you

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know Pat Ryder again sort of his focus

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and a lot of focus coming out the dod

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and the Pentagon is on the safety of

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service Personnel installations and

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bases based on incursions into sensitive

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airspace that's number one it's the

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Department of Defense so this you know

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I'm still hearing a lot of people going

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oh they're still talking about the

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threat they're not a threat well this is

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how you look at it as a defense

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department this is number one for

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keeping everybody in the US safe and so

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that's kind of otherwise because they

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sell it otherwise as a program to be

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funded and to be staffed and all the

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rest of it if there wasn't this you know

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perceived threat angle or the very

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minimum safety to flight yeah exactly a

303
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Flight Risk so it's crazy to think oh

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there isn't a threat and you can't

305
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assume that or it's all love and light

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because we don't know you know some

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people's experiences clearly go in that

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direction but others don't so and even

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if you take that other equation from a

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simple defense point of view if you've

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got things coming over your oil space

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you don't know what they are you can't

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intercept them you can't deal with them

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um let alone you know or identify them

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then they are going to be perceived in

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some angles as some kind of threat or

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some kind of thing that needs to be

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addressed and identified and that's what

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they're doing that's the bare bonus of

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it and this is this is kind of like

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where we always find ourselves with the

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UAP thing right is it a threat or is it

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not the first thing you got to think of

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as far as

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um why it's like you said uh venue why

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it's in the dod they're looking at this

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and perceiving it as a threat because of

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where they find them which is nuclear

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installations Lawrence Livermore

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laboratory right Sandy Labs other places

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and that includes drones right and other

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things and I'm sorry but a drone you

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know over a nuclear establishment is a

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very scary situation yeah

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because that drone could carry anything

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on it or whatever so so that's really

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dangerous and then including that you

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know we have bona fide like uaps like

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Tic Tac type stories and all that kind

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of stuff

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um which is also a threat because you

342
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know you don't know what something is

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you know and you know I hate to say but

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Lou always said it all the time right so

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if you woke up in the morning in your

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house all the doors were locked and

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everything and you saw muddy boot prints

348
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in your house

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but there is nothing taken nothing

350
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damaged nothing you know would you

351
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perceive that as a threat and of course

352
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it is because you don't know the person

353
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uh the intent behind that person are

354
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they coming back tonight what are they

355
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going to do that time you know and so on

356
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and so forth so did you know it's also

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that the report was drafted by the

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National Intelligence manager for

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aviation in addition to ro so you know

360
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um you know Nim's got a uh that

361
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basically added me in their effectively

362
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air intelligence aren't they so they're

363
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they're looking at all kind of threats

364
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around the battle space but in the air

365
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so it's natural that you know they're

366
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gonna sort of probably defer to them in

367
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terms of things that prefer

368
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um sort of constitute some kind of like

369
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air risk or safety risk in the air let

370
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alone a threat this this is a good point

371
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but so Potential Threat as Lou said but

372
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right so at least for me when I'm

373
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decision making right a part of that

374
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decision making is looking at the worst

375
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case scenario you know

376
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you have to look at the worst case

377
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scenario especially if you know you're

378
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charged with protecting an entire

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country sure you know around such

380
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sensitive installations what's the worst

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thing that could happen here in

382
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when you think of that

383
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that's how you have to base your actions

384
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you know until you get better not you

385
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know info or knowledge on it I guess so

386
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so that's what they're doing here is the

387
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report

388
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um that we can take a look at

389
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kind of small though to be honest with

390
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I got coronavirus leave me alone God

391
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damn it

392
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so yeah so you could take a look at this

393
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um I

394
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highlighted some things in here so

395
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you know because a lot of it's just you

396
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know as Graham said kind of just like

397
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um boilerplate

398
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so

399
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pretty good

400
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uh but then we have the table of

401
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contents whatever so that's two pages

402
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down straight away yeah right so now

403
00:16:19,430 --> 00:16:16,680
we're already on page three so the

404
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executive summary uh on a UAP reporting

405
00:16:22,490 --> 00:16:21,000
is increasing enabling a greater

406
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awareness of the airspace increased

407
00:16:26,870 --> 00:16:24,540
opportunity to resolve UAP events in

408
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addition to the 144 UAP reports covered

409
00:16:32,569 --> 00:16:28,920
during the 17 years of UAP reporting

410
00:16:34,790 --> 00:16:32,579
included in the office of dni uh prelim

411
00:16:36,590 --> 00:16:34,800
assessment there but 247 reports and

412
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another 119 that were either since

413
00:16:41,329 --> 00:16:38,579
discovered or reported after the prelim

414
00:16:44,150 --> 00:16:41,339
assessments time period this totals 510

415
00:16:48,889 --> 00:16:44,160
UAP reports as of the 30th of August

416
00:16:50,329 --> 00:16:48,899
2022 additional this is

417
00:16:52,069 --> 00:16:50,339
um comes up a couple times in this

418
00:16:54,949 --> 00:16:52,079
report and I think it's important this

419
00:16:57,350 --> 00:16:54,959
last sentence additional information is

420
00:16:59,090 --> 00:16:57,360
provided in the classified version of

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00:17:01,189 --> 00:16:59,100
this report

422
00:17:02,870 --> 00:17:01,199
you know so what is that additional

423
00:17:04,250 --> 00:17:02,880
information

424
00:17:06,409 --> 00:17:04,260
um and then this thing and you guys can

425
00:17:08,809 --> 00:17:06,419
chime in at any time but uh this thing

426
00:17:11,449 --> 00:17:08,819
here we got UAP events continue to occur

427
00:17:13,370 --> 00:17:11,459
in restricted or sensitive airspace

428
00:17:16,270 --> 00:17:13,380
highlighting possible concerns for

429
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safety of flight or adversary collection

430
00:17:23,689 --> 00:17:20,160
uh activity and what I wanted to do real

431
00:17:27,530 --> 00:17:23,699
quick just so people can uh kind of get

432
00:17:30,610 --> 00:17:27,540
in a a an idea at least of why I think

433
00:17:33,250 --> 00:17:30,620
some of this is kind of

434
00:17:35,750 --> 00:17:33,260
ridiculous to be quite Frank

435
00:17:39,950 --> 00:17:35,760
and I'm going to show you why that is

436
00:17:43,789 --> 00:17:41,990
um this document in 1952 and there's

437
00:17:45,470 --> 00:17:43,799
others like it that hint at it but I'm

438
00:17:48,350 --> 00:17:45,480
just going to this one quick memorandum

439
00:17:49,850 --> 00:17:48,360
for the director of the CIA

440
00:17:51,049 --> 00:17:49,860
and I'm not going to spend a lot of time

441
00:17:53,409 --> 00:17:51,059
on here I'm just going to hit bullet

442
00:17:55,669 --> 00:17:53,419
point for uh right at the bottom

443
00:17:57,230 --> 00:17:55,679
sightings of unexplained objects at

444
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Great altitudes and traveling at high

445
00:18:01,010 --> 00:17:59,100
speeds in the vicinity of major U.S

446
00:18:02,330 --> 00:18:01,020
defense installations are such nature

447
00:18:04,970 --> 00:18:02,340
that they are not attributable to

448
00:18:08,990 --> 00:18:04,980
natural phenomenon or known types of

449
00:18:13,190 --> 00:18:09,000
aerial Vehicles this is in 1952 we're in

450
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2023 and we have the same language in in

451
00:18:18,470 --> 00:18:16,200
regards to UAP do we not what is it what

452
00:18:20,870 --> 00:18:18,480
do you what do you guys think

453
00:18:23,029 --> 00:18:20,880
well we're not we're not moving forward

454
00:18:25,010 --> 00:18:23,039
from that with the same arguments and

455
00:18:26,990 --> 00:18:25,020
the same lack of information the same

456
00:18:29,690 --> 00:18:27,000
requests for better reporting better

457
00:18:31,490 --> 00:18:29,700
data collection and better analysis that

458
00:18:33,529 --> 00:18:31,500
was all you know gone through in the

459
00:18:36,470 --> 00:18:33,539
early in the late 1940s and early 1950s

460
00:18:39,650 --> 00:18:36,480
and culminating in blue books uh status

461
00:18:40,909 --> 00:18:39,660
report number 14 which we can discuss

462
00:18:42,950 --> 00:18:40,919
later if you want because there are

463
00:18:44,690 --> 00:18:42,960
parallels between that and this

464
00:18:45,409 --> 00:18:44,700
sure

465
00:18:47,150 --> 00:18:45,419
um

466
00:18:48,950 --> 00:18:47,160
unless you got something Benny I'll just

467
00:18:51,830 --> 00:18:48,960
keep going

468
00:18:53,570 --> 00:18:51,840
but he's on mute I'm on mute sorry my

469
00:18:55,549 --> 00:18:53,580
mistake oh yeah the one thing and again

470
00:18:57,890 --> 00:18:55,559
it's me probably me just being quite um

471
00:19:00,049 --> 00:18:57,900
optimistic is that this report was

472
00:19:01,490 --> 00:19:00,059
written while Arrow was situated under

473
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the office of the under secretary of

474
00:19:05,870 --> 00:19:04,020
defense for intelligence arrow is now

475
00:19:08,570 --> 00:19:05,880
not under them they've moved more under

476
00:19:10,789 --> 00:19:08,580
the banner of the odni directly so

477
00:19:13,010 --> 00:19:10,799
Moultrie the whole Moultrie thing won't

478
00:19:15,409 --> 00:19:13,020
have as much of a park going forward

479
00:19:16,970 --> 00:19:15,419
right and we you know I I was worried

480
00:19:20,330 --> 00:19:16,980
that there was some obfuscation coming

481
00:19:23,690 --> 00:19:20,340
from him and so almost controlling arrow

482
00:19:26,870 --> 00:19:23,700
and Sean Kirkpatrick uh to a degree so

483
00:19:28,730 --> 00:19:26,880
I'm hoping that now that he's you know

484
00:19:30,890 --> 00:19:28,740
Kirkpatrick's move from under Moultrie

485
00:19:32,330 --> 00:19:30,900
we can kind of maybe they'll get a bit

486
00:19:34,190 --> 00:19:32,340
more freedom to kind of do it for

487
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themselves without worrying too much

488
00:19:40,010 --> 00:19:37,620
about that yeah we'll see it only time

489
00:19:42,590 --> 00:19:40,020
will tell but a lot has changed in that

490
00:19:44,870 --> 00:19:42,600
in between what we've just got and what

491
00:19:47,270 --> 00:19:44,880
we might get in the next report so yeah

492
00:19:48,830 --> 00:19:47,280
yeah but but again one one last thing is

493
00:19:51,169 --> 00:19:48,840
I've found

494
00:19:52,610 --> 00:19:51,179
six seven points that I took from this

495
00:19:54,590 --> 00:19:52,620
report that I found really interesting

496
00:19:57,350 --> 00:19:54,600
so for me it was definitely not a

497
00:19:59,270 --> 00:19:57,360
nothing Burger sure was it was it weak

498
00:20:02,330 --> 00:19:59,280
yeah it was weak but you can still take

499
00:20:04,669 --> 00:20:02,340
away things to work on sure

500
00:20:07,549 --> 00:20:04,679
um well yeah what one thing for me and

501
00:20:09,830 --> 00:20:07,559
this is kind of the negative sense look

502
00:20:12,169 --> 00:20:09,840
at all these people that that helped

503
00:20:15,350 --> 00:20:12,179
with this report right sure

504
00:20:17,510 --> 00:20:15,360
all these freaking people and the only

505
00:20:20,870 --> 00:20:17,520
thing that they could tell us was how

506
00:20:25,730 --> 00:20:23,390
you know at this point it's like it's

507
00:20:28,250 --> 00:20:25,740
it's almost borderline embarrassing to

508
00:20:30,289 --> 00:20:28,260
me is like a public thing like look at

509
00:20:32,510 --> 00:20:30,299
the robustness of everybody that's

510
00:20:33,710 --> 00:20:32,520
helping and I'm sorry it would be a Pity

511
00:20:35,330 --> 00:20:33,720
that they couldn't actually break down

512
00:20:36,770 --> 00:20:35,340
the figures as to you know where this

513
00:20:38,210 --> 00:20:36,780
place came from

514
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um did it come from the Department of

515
00:20:40,909 --> 00:20:39,780
energy did it come from Nassau did it

516
00:20:43,130 --> 00:20:40,919
come from you know this that and the

517
00:20:44,690 --> 00:20:43,140
other uh it's a shame I mean I'm trying

518
00:20:46,250 --> 00:20:44,700
to be positive as much as I can here

519
00:20:47,450 --> 00:20:46,260
that you know it's a shame that they

520
00:20:49,549 --> 00:20:47,460
weren't broken down between those

521
00:20:51,049 --> 00:20:49,559
because later on it actually mentions

522
00:20:53,029 --> 00:20:51,059
about the increased number between the

523
00:20:54,049 --> 00:20:53,039
US Navy and U.S Air Force and of course

524
00:20:55,789 --> 00:20:54,059
there's always been this traditional

525
00:20:57,710 --> 00:20:55,799
kind of thing about the US Air Force

526
00:20:59,450 --> 00:20:57,720
dragging its feet in terms of getting to

527
00:21:01,789 --> 00:20:59,460
grips for this so it'd be interesting to

528
00:21:03,890 --> 00:21:01,799
see as well what the numbers of those

529
00:21:06,110 --> 00:21:03,900
cases were were most of them still

530
00:21:10,190 --> 00:21:06,120
coming outside of the same thing from

531
00:21:11,750 --> 00:21:10,200
the U.S Navy yeah because like at least

532
00:21:12,970 --> 00:21:11,760
saw this report was made you know it

533
00:21:16,370 --> 00:21:12,980
could totally be

534
00:21:18,289 --> 00:21:16,380
499 Navy they'll have that information

535
00:21:21,470 --> 00:21:18,299
in the classified in the classified

536
00:21:22,970 --> 00:21:21,480
section yeah absolutely yeah you know

537
00:21:24,470 --> 00:21:22,980
notwithstanding all the other

538
00:21:26,330 --> 00:21:24,480
information that Walter were desperate

539
00:21:27,289 --> 00:21:26,340
to see but that will be in there at

540
00:21:29,390 --> 00:21:27,299
least now wouldn't have thought that

541
00:21:31,789 --> 00:21:29,400
would harm anybody by being able to put

542
00:21:34,070 --> 00:21:31,799
that out but maybe you know they see

543
00:21:35,930 --> 00:21:34,080
that differently well it's probably not

544
00:21:40,190 --> 00:21:35,940
favorable to the Air Force owners soon

545
00:21:43,310 --> 00:21:41,930
um one thing I have mentioned in these

546
00:21:44,630 --> 00:21:43,320
highlighted in these highlighted

547
00:21:47,450 --> 00:21:44,640
sections that you've done the word

548
00:21:49,370 --> 00:21:47,460
sensor is is filling is in quite a few

549
00:21:51,710 --> 00:21:49,380
of those highlighted sections and that

550
00:21:54,289 --> 00:21:51,720
speaks volumes because they are not

551
00:21:56,149 --> 00:21:54,299
generally just relying on these aviators

552
00:21:58,370 --> 00:21:56,159
from the Air Force and the Navy to

553
00:22:00,710 --> 00:21:58,380
report these things they are getting the

554
00:22:03,230 --> 00:22:00,720
data on sensor systems as well and

555
00:22:04,549 --> 00:22:03,240
probably a lot of it so I think that's

556
00:22:06,470 --> 00:22:04,559
really important yeah because they're

557
00:22:07,970 --> 00:22:06,480
getting reports from the aviators they

558
00:22:10,490 --> 00:22:07,980
can then go and check the sensors and

559
00:22:11,990 --> 00:22:10,500
there you've got two data points so you

560
00:22:15,409 --> 00:22:12,000
need to still say that they operate

561
00:22:17,529 --> 00:22:15,419
correctly and capture them so yeah

562
00:22:19,909 --> 00:22:17,539
they're not they're not

563
00:22:24,549 --> 00:22:19,919
the local Tandy down the road or

564
00:22:30,610 --> 00:22:27,890
I don't know what that is it's an

565
00:22:35,470 --> 00:22:30,620
electronics store okay

566
00:22:38,029 --> 00:22:35,480
all right uh we can keep it there uh

567
00:22:41,630 --> 00:22:38,039
yeah uh this

568
00:22:43,130 --> 00:22:41,640
you know this this is you know as much

569
00:22:45,289 --> 00:22:43,140
as I talk about a lot of similarities

570
00:22:47,210 --> 00:22:45,299
between you know the Blue Book days and

571
00:22:48,649 --> 00:22:47,220
and you know what's going on now or

572
00:22:51,169 --> 00:22:48,659
whatever there are some major

573
00:22:53,270 --> 00:22:51,179
differences I would say too and as far

574
00:22:54,950 --> 00:22:53,280
as we can see from the outside you know

575
00:22:58,010 --> 00:22:54,960
this will be the first hole a government

576
00:23:00,049 --> 00:22:58,020
type approach right like in Blue Book it

577
00:23:01,549 --> 00:23:00,059
was the Air Force some people would

578
00:23:02,870 --> 00:23:01,559
report things to the Air Force whether

579
00:23:05,090 --> 00:23:02,880
it be the Navy or the Coast Guard

580
00:23:07,250 --> 00:23:05,100
whoever but really it was the air force

581
00:23:09,529 --> 00:23:07,260
that was you know taking these reports

582
00:23:12,110 --> 00:23:09,539
and putting on the public face so here

583
00:23:15,350 --> 00:23:12,120
we're gonna have you know all sorts of

584
00:23:17,930 --> 00:23:15,360
government entities helping with this

585
00:23:20,450 --> 00:23:17,940
um approach and for me that just kind of

586
00:23:22,190 --> 00:23:20,460
speaks to how serious the situation is I

587
00:23:24,770 --> 00:23:22,200
don't think you put this together and

588
00:23:26,390 --> 00:23:24,780
spend all this time and all these

589
00:23:28,190 --> 00:23:26,400
resources putting together this

590
00:23:29,330 --> 00:23:28,200
collection mechanism working with all

591
00:23:32,630 --> 00:23:29,340
these people this whole government

592
00:23:34,490 --> 00:23:32,640
approach if it's not a big deal you know

593
00:23:36,110 --> 00:23:34,500
it's obviously a big deal there's

594
00:23:39,049 --> 00:23:36,120
there's something going on or this stuff

595
00:23:40,850 --> 00:23:39,059
wouldn't happen so I I thought it was

596
00:23:42,649 --> 00:23:40,860
worth highlighting that so I could

597
00:23:45,230 --> 00:23:42,659
remember to bring out the differences

598
00:23:47,930 --> 00:23:45,240
between past you know efforts in this

599
00:23:50,270 --> 00:23:47,940
one that I highlighted and I am

600
00:23:52,310 --> 00:23:50,280
uh Aviation they actually authored the

601
00:23:54,590 --> 00:23:52,320
first preliminary assessment too which

602
00:23:56,450 --> 00:23:54,600
is interesting so

603
00:23:58,549 --> 00:23:56,460
um their Vocal Point for this it seems

604
00:24:00,529 --> 00:23:58,559
like there's you know putting on the big

605
00:24:03,590 --> 00:24:00,539
shoes and and taking the lead role on

606
00:24:05,210 --> 00:24:03,600
this so and they're kind of uh new to me

607
00:24:07,310 --> 00:24:05,220
at least within the past couple years

608
00:24:08,930 --> 00:24:07,320
first time I've heard of them

609
00:24:10,370 --> 00:24:08,940
um and then of course everybody saw the

610
00:24:12,169 --> 00:24:10,380
patch that came out with the flank

611
00:24:14,810 --> 00:24:12,179
saucer on it that disappeared not too

612
00:24:16,970 --> 00:24:14,820
long after which is you know a very tiny

613
00:24:19,430 --> 00:24:16,980
version of Roswell all over again here

614
00:24:21,770 --> 00:24:19,440
we go it's real never mind just kidding

615
00:24:24,289 --> 00:24:21,780
you know so that's interesting

616
00:24:26,570 --> 00:24:24,299
um so we'll see what that's about you

617
00:24:28,370 --> 00:24:26,580
know and how that goes uh it makes sense

618
00:24:30,710 --> 00:24:28,380
on the outside but as far as I remember

619
00:24:32,450 --> 00:24:30,720
in X Air Force guy also was the head of

620
00:24:35,210 --> 00:24:32,460
this place so I'm not sure

621
00:24:36,590 --> 00:24:35,220
I have to look into that but uh you know

622
00:24:38,810 --> 00:24:36,600
so I don't know if that's a good thing

623
00:24:40,370 --> 00:24:38,820
or not but

624
00:24:41,690 --> 00:24:40,380
um if you guys see anything as I scroll

625
00:24:44,390 --> 00:24:41,700
through here that you want to talk about

626
00:24:46,730 --> 00:24:44,400
go ahead yeah one thing of those that

627
00:24:49,130 --> 00:24:46,740
those numbers there the 26 characterized

628
00:24:51,049 --> 00:24:49,140
163 characterized

629
00:24:52,549 --> 00:24:51,059
that bit below where it's you've

630
00:24:54,590 --> 00:24:52,559
highlighted it initial characterization

631
00:24:56,510 --> 00:24:54,600
does not mean positively resolved or

632
00:24:58,669 --> 00:24:56,520
identified that's that's really vital

633
00:24:59,750 --> 00:24:58,679
that I found that's but that's the

634
00:25:01,730 --> 00:24:59,760
takeaway that's actually being lost

635
00:25:03,770 --> 00:25:01,740
though isn't it because the media

636
00:25:05,630 --> 00:25:03,780
reported us over half can be attributed

637
00:25:08,570 --> 00:25:05,640
to knowing causes actually that's not

638
00:25:11,330 --> 00:25:08,580
what it says and also when you and even

639
00:25:13,610 --> 00:25:11,340
if that was the case then you can't you

640
00:25:15,350 --> 00:25:13,620
have to add in the other 143 from the

641
00:25:17,930 --> 00:25:15,360
first report and it actually means that

642
00:25:19,850 --> 00:25:17,940
more than half it's about 65 or so are

643
00:25:20,990 --> 00:25:19,860
unidentified and that's quite a large

644
00:25:22,789 --> 00:25:21,000
number

645
00:25:24,289 --> 00:25:22,799
um now we also don't know what the

646
00:25:26,810 --> 00:25:24,299
methodology was behind the kind of

647
00:25:28,789 --> 00:25:26,820
evaluations uh this is again a parallel

648
00:25:31,789 --> 00:25:28,799
with blue with blue book uh instead of

649
00:25:33,350 --> 00:25:31,799
support 14 from 1955. there's no

650
00:25:35,450 --> 00:25:33,360
information about the methodology the

651
00:25:37,310 --> 00:25:35,460
kind of evaluations were done the people

652
00:25:39,830 --> 00:25:37,320
who were doing them and what their your

653
00:25:41,630 --> 00:25:39,840
technical expertise was back then it was

654
00:25:45,169 --> 00:25:41,640
a panel from Atik and also from

655
00:25:46,669 --> 00:25:45,179
Engineers or scientists but now you know

656
00:25:48,590 --> 00:25:46,679
does anybody know who who is actually

657
00:25:50,870 --> 00:25:48,600
you know sort of calling these out and

658
00:25:54,110 --> 00:25:50,880
say oh well this is a balloon this is a

659
00:25:55,310 --> 00:25:54,120
a drone a uas yeah that's a that's a

660
00:25:57,049 --> 00:25:55,320
phrase that's been around for a while

661
00:25:59,090 --> 00:25:57,059
but that now they're calling them those

662
00:26:00,230 --> 00:25:59,100
rather than just drones

663
00:26:02,029 --> 00:26:00,240
um but does anybody know you know what

664
00:26:04,070 --> 00:26:02,039
the criteria was and who's been making

665
00:26:06,190 --> 00:26:04,080
these you know evaluations because I

666
00:26:08,990 --> 00:26:06,200
certainly don't know

667
00:26:10,190 --> 00:26:09,000
sorry oh just real quick just to kind of

668
00:26:12,890 --> 00:26:10,200
limit that point

669
00:26:15,590 --> 00:26:12,900
um you know I wrote this little thing a

670
00:26:17,570 --> 00:26:15,600
while ago but this is kind of similar to

671
00:26:20,269 --> 00:26:17,580
back in Blue Book like this is a blue

672
00:26:23,330 --> 00:26:20,279
book uh I believe it's a briefing to the

673
00:26:25,130 --> 00:26:23,340
Air Defense command from attic

674
00:26:28,070 --> 00:26:25,140
um and I highlighted here we can only

675
00:26:30,289 --> 00:26:28,080
positively identify about seven percent

676
00:26:33,289 --> 00:26:30,299
but right above that we believe we can

677
00:26:34,850 --> 00:26:33,299
explain all but about 20 you know so

678
00:26:37,010 --> 00:26:34,860
what they're saying is

679
00:26:39,470 --> 00:26:37,020
and then down below this figure is not

680
00:26:41,149 --> 00:26:39,480
truly representative of the facts due to

681
00:26:43,669 --> 00:26:41,159
the methods used in evaluating the

682
00:26:47,029 --> 00:26:43,679
reports okay probables and possibles

683
00:26:51,130 --> 00:26:47,039
exactly so if something's in a

684
00:26:53,450 --> 00:26:51,140
you know and it moves kind of slowly

685
00:26:54,950 --> 00:26:53,460
moves like a balloon they just call it a

686
00:26:57,049 --> 00:26:54,960
balloon they haven't they don't know

687
00:26:58,370 --> 00:26:57,059
that it is they're not so well I mean

688
00:26:59,870 --> 00:26:58,380
sometimes they actually have a balloon

689
00:27:02,330 --> 00:26:59,880
track and they can you know actually

690
00:27:04,130 --> 00:27:02,340
positively identify it is that sometimes

691
00:27:06,470 --> 00:27:04,140
they don't have a balloon track for that

692
00:27:08,570 --> 00:27:06,480
area but they call it a balloon anyways

693
00:27:11,149 --> 00:27:08,580
just because maybe you have some how

694
00:27:12,250 --> 00:27:11,159
someone described it you know so it's

695
00:27:14,570 --> 00:27:12,260
important

696
00:27:16,490 --> 00:27:14,580
now we're seeing on everyone in the

697
00:27:18,649 --> 00:27:16,500
chats you know asking us to talk about

698
00:27:21,950 --> 00:27:18,659
this we're now seeing the term balloon

699
00:27:24,010 --> 00:27:21,960
like entities or balloon entities you

700
00:27:26,210 --> 00:27:24,020
know what's that all about

701
00:27:28,549 --> 00:27:26,220
it's a strange it's a strange way of

702
00:27:30,409 --> 00:27:28,559
wording it isn't it and I I believe they

703
00:27:33,830 --> 00:27:30,419
mean items I don't believe the main kind

704
00:27:35,930 --> 00:27:33,840
of beings you know because that's what

705
00:27:38,149 --> 00:27:35,940
the we would well that's what I would

706
00:27:39,890 --> 00:27:38,159
certainly take that word to mean in this

707
00:27:43,010 --> 00:27:39,900
kind of context but that I'm sure they

708
00:27:45,529 --> 00:27:43,020
mean you know an item an object but it's

709
00:27:46,669 --> 00:27:45,539
it's a weird way to describe it they

710
00:27:48,230 --> 00:27:46,679
need to be careful because they can have

711
00:27:50,570 --> 00:27:48,240
people in the UFO yeah you're thinking

712
00:27:57,850 --> 00:27:50,580
that these are like oh yeah aliens like

713
00:28:03,590 --> 00:28:01,149
[Laughter]

714
00:28:06,049 --> 00:28:03,600
no see here's where I disagree with you

715
00:28:09,549 --> 00:28:06,059
if they say entities this means

716
00:28:12,830 --> 00:28:09,559
something that has a heartbeat

717
00:28:14,990 --> 00:28:12,840
and it just happens to be shaped like a

718
00:28:17,810 --> 00:28:15,000
balloon and kind of floats through this

719
00:28:20,390 --> 00:28:17,820
guy okay so I think this is we're first

720
00:28:22,370 --> 00:28:20,400
hearing about this new

721
00:28:24,710 --> 00:28:22,380
um living being it that looks like a

722
00:28:27,649 --> 00:28:24,720
balloon and it's Mr staphoofed from

723
00:28:29,810 --> 00:28:27,659
Ghostbusters yeah yeah

724
00:28:31,909 --> 00:28:29,820
but I mean really what they're really

725
00:28:33,470 --> 00:28:31,919
saying that is kind of going back on

726
00:28:35,990 --> 00:28:33,480
what we were just talking about they

727
00:28:39,049 --> 00:28:36,000
don't know positively that something is

728
00:28:41,210 --> 00:28:39,059
a balloon right for instance so they

729
00:28:44,289 --> 00:28:41,220
have to say balloon like

730
00:28:46,730 --> 00:28:44,299
entity you know so

731
00:28:48,289 --> 00:28:46,740
I know it's the last bit is attributed

732
00:28:50,090 --> 00:28:48,299
to so that's different kind of um you

733
00:28:52,130 --> 00:28:50,100
know sort of wording again and that's

734
00:28:54,169 --> 00:28:52,140
probably correct in terms of the being

735
00:28:57,110 --> 00:28:54,179
able to you know I positively identify

736
00:28:59,690 --> 00:28:57,120
six cases as being Birds weather events

737
00:29:02,330 --> 00:28:59,700
or Airborne debuts such as plastic bags

738
00:29:03,769 --> 00:29:02,340
and that's probably right but then when

739
00:29:07,130 --> 00:29:03,779
you you see the wording above and it

740
00:29:09,590 --> 00:29:07,140
says 26 and 163 characterized that

741
00:29:11,330 --> 00:29:09,600
doesn't that yeah that definitely is not

742
00:29:13,789 --> 00:29:11,340
the wording you would use if you were

743
00:29:16,430 --> 00:29:13,799
going to identify something positively

744
00:29:18,049 --> 00:29:16,440
as one of those things so yeah you've

745
00:29:19,730 --> 00:29:18,059
got to read between the lines there and

746
00:29:21,710 --> 00:29:19,740
see what they really mean and I know

747
00:29:23,950 --> 00:29:21,720
they've clarified underneath but you

748
00:29:26,930 --> 00:29:23,960
know it just seems yeah well why bother

749
00:29:28,370 --> 00:29:26,940
yeah well and I think that could be the

750
00:29:30,169 --> 00:29:28,380
difference between this report and the

751
00:29:32,269 --> 00:29:30,179
last one like the the preliminary

752
00:29:35,990 --> 00:29:32,279
assessment they didn't go on a leap and

753
00:29:39,889 --> 00:29:36,000
say well yeah we initially characterized

754
00:29:41,330 --> 00:29:39,899
kinda as this you know they had one that

755
00:29:43,010 --> 00:29:41,340
they knew for sure was a balloon the

756
00:29:46,870 --> 00:29:43,020
rest they just didn't know for sure yeah

757
00:29:50,870 --> 00:29:49,610
189 identified Against One Last Time

758
00:29:53,930 --> 00:29:50,880
round

759
00:29:57,490 --> 00:29:53,940
um it's it's rather weird and assumption

760
00:29:59,570 --> 00:29:57,500
to make answers to you and me so

761
00:30:01,010 --> 00:29:59,580
and then this is what you're going to

762
00:30:03,529 --> 00:30:01,020
see all the time in the different news

763
00:30:06,470 --> 00:30:03,539
reports 171 uncharacterized and

764
00:30:08,450 --> 00:30:06,480
unattributed UAP reports uh demonstrated

765
00:30:10,250 --> 00:30:08,460
unusual flight characteristics or

766
00:30:13,070 --> 00:30:10,260
performance capabilities and require

767
00:30:15,230 --> 00:30:13,080
further analysis you know so this is

768
00:30:17,090 --> 00:30:15,240
really what everyone's interested in and

769
00:30:18,649 --> 00:30:17,100
that's what we get the least amount of

770
00:30:20,330 --> 00:30:18,659
details on you know going back to what

771
00:30:22,490 --> 00:30:20,340
you said Graham about I wish they'd give

772
00:30:25,010 --> 00:30:22,500
you some details on this stuff like give

773
00:30:26,810 --> 00:30:25,020
an example of one of those cases how is

774
00:30:28,490 --> 00:30:26,820
it so hard you know like and this is

775
00:30:30,590 --> 00:30:28,500
what we mean this is what it looks like

776
00:30:31,970 --> 00:30:30,600
like this case you know they can

777
00:30:33,169 --> 00:30:31,980
actually sanitize and they have done in

778
00:30:36,110 --> 00:30:33,179
the past there's precedence for this

779
00:30:38,269 --> 00:30:36,120
they have actually included cases

780
00:30:41,090 --> 00:30:38,279
um Blue Book special status report 14

781
00:30:42,889 --> 00:30:41,100
actually had 12 cases in it which they

782
00:30:45,350 --> 00:30:42,899
they sanitize the details so they took

783
00:30:47,389 --> 00:30:45,360
the the location Edition and the name of

784
00:30:48,769 --> 00:30:47,399
the witness and even the actually

785
00:30:51,110 --> 00:30:48,779
include the date so you could actually

786
00:30:52,850 --> 00:30:51,120
work out now which ones they are but

787
00:30:54,409 --> 00:30:52,860
there and then even the summary wasn't

788
00:30:56,330 --> 00:30:54,419
anywhere near the amount of detail for

789
00:30:58,789 --> 00:30:56,340
the cases and they had an artist that

790
00:31:00,529 --> 00:30:58,799
came in and redrew the sketches so there

791
00:31:03,169 --> 00:31:00,539
weren't it all was what the original

792
00:31:04,490 --> 00:31:03,179
sketches look like either but at least

793
00:31:06,649 --> 00:31:04,500
they added some information in for

794
00:31:09,830 --> 00:31:06,659
people to look at although it was as

795
00:31:11,450 --> 00:31:09,840
we've discussed off off air it wasn't

796
00:31:13,789 --> 00:31:11,460
actually something the public could have

797
00:31:16,010 --> 00:31:13,799
easy access to very own you got a

798
00:31:18,289 --> 00:31:16,020
summary and a press release much like

799
00:31:19,730 --> 00:31:18,299
what we're getting now we're getting you

800
00:31:21,049 --> 00:31:19,740
know the the comments from the Pentagon

801
00:31:23,750 --> 00:31:21,059
through the print through the Press um

802
00:31:25,909 --> 00:31:23,760
The Briefing but also just the executive

803
00:31:28,130 --> 00:31:25,919
summary of the report so nothing really

804
00:31:29,630 --> 00:31:28,140
changes but you're uh but you're both

805
00:31:32,149 --> 00:31:29,640
right there are things to pull from this

806
00:31:33,649 --> 00:31:32,159
which we haven't seen before the one

807
00:31:35,210 --> 00:31:33,659
other thing as well is look we these

808
00:31:36,889 --> 00:31:35,220
numbers that they've given us we knew

809
00:31:39,169 --> 00:31:36,899
these numbers or these numbers were

810
00:31:40,990 --> 00:31:39,179
reported back in October when Josh

811
00:31:43,370 --> 00:31:41,000
Boswell and Christian

812
00:31:45,310 --> 00:31:43,380
they came out with these numbers so

813
00:31:47,269 --> 00:31:45,320
someone and the sources that they have

814
00:31:49,430 --> 00:31:47,279
are telling them the right information

815
00:31:51,710 --> 00:31:49,440
but what else was in that article that

816
00:31:53,630 --> 00:31:51,720
is not in here there are examples of

817
00:31:56,450 --> 00:31:53,640
cases I've got one next to me examples

818
00:31:58,909 --> 00:31:56,460
include video shot by Reaper drones and

819
00:32:01,070 --> 00:31:58,919
conducting surveillance that caught orbs

820
00:32:03,470 --> 00:32:01,080
flying around then suddenly bolting off

821
00:32:05,450 --> 00:32:03,480
so if you put I mean and this is still

822
00:32:06,830 --> 00:32:05,460
heavily speculative but if that

823
00:32:08,990 --> 00:32:06,840
information on the numbers is correct

824
00:32:11,510 --> 00:32:09,000
then what's to say that this information

825
00:32:13,730 --> 00:32:11,520
about these Reaper drone and orbs is not

826
00:32:19,690 --> 00:32:13,740
also correct it begs the question at

827
00:32:23,450 --> 00:32:22,010
you know you wonder what kind of

828
00:32:25,010 --> 00:32:23,460
intelligence value somebody to be able

829
00:32:27,769 --> 00:32:25,020
to get out of that particular statement

830
00:32:29,389 --> 00:32:27,779
and why it wasn't included but those are

831
00:32:32,029 --> 00:32:29,399
decisions that aren't made by us are

832
00:32:33,649 --> 00:32:32,039
they so yeah well what they what they

833
00:32:37,310 --> 00:32:33,659
don't want to do is is give information

834
00:32:39,230 --> 00:32:37,320
that could lead people to

835
00:32:41,389 --> 00:32:39,240
um you know kind of like what I was

836
00:32:42,649 --> 00:32:41,399
talking about earlier you know orbs are

837
00:32:44,389 --> 00:32:42,659
in the headlines and then all of a

838
00:32:46,070 --> 00:32:44,399
sudden picking up orbs in the Middle

839
00:32:47,450 --> 00:32:46,080
East and then what are these orbs now

840
00:32:49,970 --> 00:32:47,460
they got to make another report that

841
00:32:52,250 --> 00:32:49,980
details what orbs are and balloon-like

842
00:32:53,870 --> 00:32:52,260
entities isn't going to cut it I guess

843
00:32:55,190 --> 00:32:53,880
also there's another dimension as well

844
00:32:57,710 --> 00:32:55,200
isn't it because if the more information

845
00:33:00,049 --> 00:32:57,720
they gave out which is can be checked

846
00:33:01,850 --> 00:33:00,059
even if it's quite Anonymous you could

847
00:33:02,990 --> 00:33:01,860
almost you know there might be ways of

848
00:33:04,850 --> 00:33:03,000
actually finding out when and where

849
00:33:07,789 --> 00:33:04,860
something happened and then that leads

850
00:33:08,810 --> 00:33:07,799
to foils doesn't it so the last thing

851
00:33:10,850 --> 00:33:08,820
they want to do is Lay enough

852
00:33:12,889 --> 00:33:10,860
information down that people can then

853
00:33:14,269 --> 00:33:12,899
sort of you know go to them and say well

854
00:33:16,009 --> 00:33:14,279
look we want all the information on this

855
00:33:18,769 --> 00:33:16,019
which they will then either have to

856
00:33:20,389 --> 00:33:18,779
provide or or deny or whatever but it

857
00:33:22,190 --> 00:33:20,399
then just adds more to their problems

858
00:33:23,750 --> 00:33:22,200
doesn't it uh that you know it's less

859
00:33:25,250 --> 00:33:23,760
information that they have to give out

860
00:33:27,169 --> 00:33:25,260
if they don't bother doing it in the

861
00:33:30,350 --> 00:33:27,179
first place and I'm sorry but that's

862
00:33:33,409 --> 00:33:30,360
like totally against transparency that's

863
00:33:36,889 --> 00:33:33,419
totally against working for them tell us

864
00:33:39,649 --> 00:33:36,899
about it like that's like not you're not

865
00:33:42,230 --> 00:33:39,659
supposed to cut Corners because it's

866
00:33:44,210 --> 00:33:42,240
difficult you know we pay a lot of taxes

867
00:33:47,330 --> 00:33:44,220
a lot of taxes you know and there's a

868
00:33:49,970 --> 00:33:47,340
lot of interest in this and you know for

869
00:33:51,710 --> 00:33:49,980
someone to just kind of hide the the

870
00:33:52,310 --> 00:33:51,720
meat so to speak

871
00:33:54,710 --> 00:33:52,320
um

872
00:33:56,750 --> 00:33:54,720
not not cool although you know we're

873
00:33:58,190 --> 00:33:56,760
kind of used to it but

874
00:33:59,810 --> 00:33:58,200
um hopefully something like that changes

875
00:34:02,570 --> 00:33:59,820
you know but we kind of see all these

876
00:34:04,789 --> 00:34:02,580
steps too that are that have been put in

877
00:34:09,050 --> 00:34:04,799
place recently which are just tighter

878
00:34:11,510 --> 00:34:09,060
restrictions on on UAP data like videos

879
00:34:13,730 --> 00:34:11,520
um all going to a more secured

880
00:34:16,010 --> 00:34:13,740
um you know system

881
00:34:17,570 --> 00:34:16,020
um and other classifications on UAP that

882
00:34:19,909 --> 00:34:17,580
make it harder to get that stuff out

883
00:34:21,530 --> 00:34:19,919
like um I put a link into in the

884
00:34:23,510 --> 00:34:21,540
description of this video and you can

885
00:34:26,030 --> 00:34:23,520
click on it and you can get a new batch

886
00:34:28,250 --> 00:34:26,040
of UAP reports

887
00:34:31,190 --> 00:34:28,260
um and you can look at those but you're

888
00:34:33,589 --> 00:34:31,200
not going to find any shapes any colors

889
00:34:35,210 --> 00:34:33,599
any characteristics nothing they're

890
00:34:36,770 --> 00:34:35,220
going to say such and such flew over

891
00:34:39,230 --> 00:34:36,780
here when he saw

892
00:34:43,129 --> 00:34:39,240
and then he said it looked like a

893
00:34:47,270 --> 00:34:43,139
but nobody knew how the color was so

894
00:34:49,010 --> 00:34:47,280
you know like and that's uh and you

895
00:34:51,710 --> 00:34:49,020
can't get anything from it you know and

896
00:34:53,030 --> 00:34:51,720
to me what that says to me is they're

897
00:34:54,349 --> 00:34:53,040
not saying it looked like a drone

898
00:34:56,149 --> 00:34:54,359
they're not saying it looked like a

899
00:34:58,070 --> 00:34:56,159
balloon they're not saying it it looked

900
00:34:59,750 --> 00:34:58,080
like an aircraft with its lights out

901
00:35:02,150 --> 00:34:59,760
they're saying it looked like something

902
00:35:03,410 --> 00:35:02,160
that would probably make headlines and

903
00:35:05,329 --> 00:35:03,420
that's why they're blacking it out

904
00:35:07,010 --> 00:35:05,339
they're blacking the stuff out because

905
00:35:10,310 --> 00:35:07,020
they don't want people to grab a hold of

906
00:35:12,950 --> 00:35:10,320
it and go you know off with it if if one

907
00:35:15,470 --> 00:35:12,960
report came out that said that the guy

908
00:35:18,050 --> 00:35:15,480
saw something that looked metallic and

909
00:35:21,530 --> 00:35:18,060
shaped like a disc it's over

910
00:35:25,849 --> 00:35:21,540
it's over you know at that point when

911
00:35:27,470 --> 00:35:25,859
that happens like there's no excuses

912
00:35:29,329 --> 00:35:27,480
you know so that's why they're not

913
00:35:31,250 --> 00:35:29,339
showing that stuff

914
00:35:32,810 --> 00:35:31,260
um not to say that that exists but if it

915
00:35:35,630 --> 00:35:32,820
did that would be a reason

916
00:35:37,670 --> 00:35:35,640
for them to hide it so

917
00:35:39,589 --> 00:35:37,680
just just you've just scroll past a bit

918
00:35:41,030 --> 00:35:39,599
I was just gonna highlight and it was

919
00:35:43,069 --> 00:35:41,040
looking at how they're going to analyze

920
00:35:44,450 --> 00:35:43,079
these things so it says arrows analytic

921
00:35:46,310 --> 00:35:44,460
mythology

922
00:35:48,470 --> 00:35:46,320
um sorry methodology requires a whole a

923
00:35:49,930 --> 00:35:48,480
government approach to resolving you've

924
00:35:52,910 --> 00:35:49,940
just gone past it again

925
00:35:55,190 --> 00:35:52,920
UAP events to include analysts and

926
00:35:57,290 --> 00:35:55,200
Science and Technology Specialists to

927
00:35:59,450 --> 00:35:57,300
help resolve UAP and that interests me

928
00:36:02,810 --> 00:35:59,460
to like are they good how far external

929
00:36:05,150 --> 00:36:02,820
outside of the dod that are they going

930
00:36:07,370 --> 00:36:05,160
to go to speak to analysts Science and

931
00:36:09,470 --> 00:36:07,380
Technology Specialists like that's a

932
00:36:11,690 --> 00:36:09,480
broad phrase and so that's I find that

933
00:36:13,790 --> 00:36:11,700
interesting and I think something to to

934
00:36:16,010 --> 00:36:13,800
dig in something I've got questions

935
00:36:17,990 --> 00:36:16,020
about a few people It also says I mean

936
00:36:19,670 --> 00:36:18,000
to to look at it as well it says it

937
00:36:21,109 --> 00:36:19,680
requires it doesn't mean to say they've

938
00:36:25,130 --> 00:36:21,119
actually got something in place either

939
00:36:26,990 --> 00:36:25,140
does it so I mean arrow is what

940
00:36:29,390 --> 00:36:27,000
Kirkpatrick we saw a few job

941
00:36:31,130 --> 00:36:29,400
descriptions advertised a few months

942
00:36:33,170 --> 00:36:31,140
back are they gonna are they gonna

943
00:36:35,569 --> 00:36:33,180
employ analysts Science and Technology

944
00:36:37,490 --> 00:36:35,579
Specialists yeah

945
00:36:38,810 --> 00:36:37,500
it's it's more a case of you know are

946
00:36:40,550 --> 00:36:38,820
they going to let this information out

947
00:36:43,250 --> 00:36:40,560
and how far they're going to let it out

948
00:36:44,510 --> 00:36:43,260
and exactly yeah that's the question

949
00:36:46,190 --> 00:36:44,520
isn't it

950
00:36:47,810 --> 00:36:46,200
um because just because they say oh yes

951
00:36:49,849 --> 00:36:47,820
it needs to doesn't mean to say it's how

952
00:36:51,530 --> 00:36:49,859
they're going to get done as well or if

953
00:36:53,569 --> 00:36:51,540
it gets done it's going to be buried so

954
00:36:56,990 --> 00:36:53,579
far away in a special Access program

955
00:36:59,630 --> 00:36:57,000
yeah but having these people send ndas

956
00:37:01,490 --> 00:36:59,640
you know like again we only have this to

957
00:37:03,050 --> 00:37:01,500
really compare it to as far as documents

958
00:37:04,910 --> 00:37:03,060
so I keep going back to Blue Book but

959
00:37:06,890 --> 00:37:04,920
Blue Book had there are people that they

960
00:37:08,750 --> 00:37:06,900
go to too that people had no idea about

961
00:37:13,069 --> 00:37:08,760
like whether it be professors that were

962
00:37:15,829 --> 00:37:13,079
at MIT or you know a psychologist or

963
00:37:17,870 --> 00:37:15,839
whoever they had their consultants and

964
00:37:20,569 --> 00:37:17,880
you know this is probably going to be

965
00:37:22,609 --> 00:37:20,579
somewhat of you know the same type of

966
00:37:24,410 --> 00:37:22,619
thing where if there's a radar return

967
00:37:25,849 --> 00:37:24,420
that is really just bizarre they'll

968
00:37:28,370 --> 00:37:25,859
probably go to the radar specialist

969
00:37:29,810 --> 00:37:28,380
wherever that person is you know I think

970
00:37:31,910 --> 00:37:29,820
one thing as well is that Congress have

971
00:37:33,710 --> 00:37:31,920
never been had their eyes as firmly on

972
00:37:34,930 --> 00:37:33,720
on something like this is that you know

973
00:37:37,550 --> 00:37:34,940
this is the first time that it's been

974
00:37:39,710 --> 00:37:37,560
absolutely you know looking over the

975
00:37:41,510 --> 00:37:39,720
shoulder of these people so they've got

976
00:37:43,370 --> 00:37:41,520
to reach the mandates of Congress and

977
00:37:45,410 --> 00:37:43,380
they will get you know these oversight

978
00:37:48,170 --> 00:37:45,420
committees breathing down their necks as

979
00:37:50,089 --> 00:37:48,180
well I think that's good to to be aware

980
00:37:52,609 --> 00:37:50,099
of as well that's a great Point Benny

981
00:37:54,050 --> 00:37:52,619
like as far as you know the you know

982
00:37:55,970 --> 00:37:54,060
going back I know there are some

983
00:37:57,829 --> 00:37:55,980
differences between this and and what

984
00:38:00,290 --> 00:37:57,839
happened in the past and one of those is

985
00:38:03,589 --> 00:38:00,300
what you just said uh never is Congress

986
00:38:06,710 --> 00:38:03,599
taken this taken this this far as far as

987
00:38:09,589 --> 00:38:06,720
mandated legislation rule of law Donald

988
00:38:12,589 --> 00:38:09,599
Keyhole busted his butt to try to get

989
00:38:14,750 --> 00:38:12,599
Congress to do something about this

990
00:38:16,550 --> 00:38:14,760
um and what would happen is the the

991
00:38:18,109 --> 00:38:16,560
different Representatives would actually

992
00:38:20,030 --> 00:38:18,119
get briefings by the Air Force or

993
00:38:22,550 --> 00:38:20,040
whatever and by the end of it they

994
00:38:25,250 --> 00:38:22,560
didn't care anymore you know

995
00:38:27,589 --> 00:38:25,260
so this is different and so that's it's

996
00:38:29,329 --> 00:38:27,599
good that you pointed that out I did uh

997
00:38:30,650 --> 00:38:29,339
highlight this odni and arrow have

998
00:38:32,690 --> 00:38:30,660
maintained communication with their

999
00:38:35,930 --> 00:38:32,700
Allied Partners regarding UAP because

1000
00:38:38,930 --> 00:38:35,940
well if if you look and ask somebody

1001
00:38:40,670 --> 00:38:38,940
whether it be Australia or Britain uh

1002
00:38:42,650 --> 00:38:40,680
they're they're not going to say that

1003
00:38:44,750 --> 00:38:42,660
they're going to say we haven't talked

1004
00:38:53,650 --> 00:38:44,760
to them Australia I know for sure has

1005
00:38:59,210 --> 00:38:56,630
this morning uh it was it was it was

1006
00:39:01,730 --> 00:38:59,220
said that was the case uh but yeah I

1007
00:39:04,370 --> 00:39:01,740
mean UK which is plural right I mean

1008
00:39:06,710 --> 00:39:04,380
sorry Partners is plural right so that

1009
00:39:08,630 --> 00:39:06,720
would imply more than one it would imply

1010
00:39:10,250 --> 00:39:08,640
at least the five eyes yeah absolutely

1011
00:39:12,170 --> 00:39:10,260
and that's more likely what it would be

1012
00:39:14,690 --> 00:39:12,180
but also you just wonder what kind of

1013
00:39:17,089 --> 00:39:14,700
you know how much information shared or

1014
00:39:19,190 --> 00:39:17,099
is it a case of you know they ask say

1015
00:39:21,290 --> 00:39:19,200
Britain for information on what the RAF

1016
00:39:23,390 --> 00:39:21,300
are picking up and then what happens to

1017
00:39:24,829 --> 00:39:23,400
in the direction do the Americans then

1018
00:39:26,750 --> 00:39:24,839
give them information so yeah this is

1019
00:39:28,370 --> 00:39:26,760
what we found out about UAP or is it

1020
00:39:29,750 --> 00:39:28,380
just like a one-way Street

1021
00:39:31,310 --> 00:39:29,760
um I would have thought more information

1022
00:39:33,109 --> 00:39:31,320
probably goes to America because they're

1023
00:39:35,210 --> 00:39:33,119
the people who actually have a analysis

1024
00:39:37,849 --> 00:39:35,220
program at least that we're aware of at

1025
00:39:40,310 --> 00:39:37,859
the moment on the go whereas it looks

1026
00:39:41,870 --> 00:39:40,320
like the mot at the moment unless we

1027
00:39:43,490 --> 00:39:41,880
sort of definitely know different have

1028
00:39:46,370 --> 00:39:43,500
nothing in place or at least nothing

1029
00:39:48,589 --> 00:39:46,380
that's publicly acknowledged yeah so

1030
00:39:51,230 --> 00:39:48,599
there are shared systems between the

1031
00:39:53,630 --> 00:39:51,240
five eyes Services where you know people

1032
00:39:55,930 --> 00:39:53,640
with top secret SCI clearance or the

1033
00:39:58,310 --> 00:39:55,940
equivalent of in the whichever country

1034
00:40:00,230 --> 00:39:58,320
which is probably not a lot of people in

1035
00:40:02,450 --> 00:40:00,240
the UK to be honest really when the

1036
00:40:04,790 --> 00:40:02,460
grand scheme of things so

1037
00:40:08,150 --> 00:40:04,800
they have access and the UK have access

1038
00:40:11,810 --> 00:40:08,160
to certain data points let's say sensor

1039
00:40:13,250 --> 00:40:11,820
data video data but we'll you know as

1040
00:40:15,230 --> 00:40:13,260
Graham knows all too well the

1041
00:40:17,930 --> 00:40:15,240
boilerplate responses still come thick

1042
00:40:20,030 --> 00:40:17,940
and fast when it contacted in any way

1043
00:40:21,410 --> 00:40:20,040
shape or form and it says maintain

1044
00:40:22,670 --> 00:40:21,420
communication but that doesn't mean to

1045
00:40:24,890 --> 00:40:22,680
say it's on any kind of official level

1046
00:40:27,349 --> 00:40:24,900
either exactly it could be a like a a

1047
00:40:29,089 --> 00:40:27,359
very unofficial appeal sort of just like

1048
00:40:31,250 --> 00:40:29,099
um you know something like an ad hoc

1049
00:40:33,710 --> 00:40:31,260
Arrangement where they talk to certain

1050
00:40:35,210 --> 00:40:33,720
people at certain times uh it doesn't

1051
00:40:38,210 --> 00:40:35,220
have to go through official channels

1052
00:40:40,190 --> 00:40:38,220
yeah so yeah who knows what the

1053
00:40:41,569 --> 00:40:40,200
arrangements are they could just be the

1054
00:40:44,030 --> 00:40:41,579
swapping pictures of balloon entities

1055
00:40:45,420 --> 00:40:44,040
it'll be the desk clerk at second yes

1056
00:40:48,589 --> 00:40:45,430
hello

1057
00:40:53,510 --> 00:40:50,870
oh yes I can write this down how big was

1058
00:40:56,390 --> 00:40:53,520
it now all right

1059
00:40:59,270 --> 00:40:56,400
I headed this department God damn it I

1060
00:41:00,950 --> 00:40:59,280
wrote down so much stuff okay so

1061
00:41:02,810 --> 00:41:00,960
um the other thing uh to date there have

1062
00:41:05,150 --> 00:41:02,820
been no reported collisions between you

1063
00:41:07,550 --> 00:41:05,160
as aircraft and UAP again very

1064
00:41:09,290 --> 00:41:07,560
misleading because the first thing I

1065
00:41:10,910 --> 00:41:09,300
could say is

1066
00:41:13,190 --> 00:41:10,920
um how about near collisions which we

1067
00:41:16,130 --> 00:41:13,200
learned about a lot of them uh in the

1068
00:41:18,890 --> 00:41:16,140
last report and you know so when they go

1069
00:41:20,930 --> 00:41:18,900
back to 1945 I don't think that they're

1070
00:41:23,450 --> 00:41:20,940
going to be bringing this stuff up you

1071
00:41:25,550 --> 00:41:23,460
know but The Mantel case I think we

1072
00:41:27,170 --> 00:41:25,560
should get this on the record quick uh

1073
00:41:30,430 --> 00:41:27,180
Graham because people have written about

1074
00:41:33,530 --> 00:41:30,440
this recently and said it was a balloon

1075
00:41:36,890 --> 00:41:33,540
but can you quick tell us in The Mantel

1076
00:41:40,490 --> 00:41:36,900
case in 1948 Captain mantel died from

1077
00:41:44,170 --> 00:41:40,500
chasing a UFO why was it not a balloon

1078
00:41:47,089 --> 00:41:44,180
it wasn't a balloon because well the the

1079
00:41:48,710 --> 00:41:47,099
rupelt reckoned it was a Skyhook and

1080
00:41:51,290 --> 00:41:48,720
that was one of the secret U.S Navy

1081
00:41:53,089 --> 00:41:51,300
projects at the time but when he said it

1082
00:41:54,290 --> 00:41:53,099
would have been launch from they weren't

1083
00:41:55,790 --> 00:41:54,300
launching them from there at the time

1084
00:41:57,770 --> 00:41:55,800
the the one of the people who actually

1085
00:41:59,150 --> 00:41:57,780
worked on the program said that the

1086
00:42:00,950 --> 00:41:59,160
location that he said it must have come

1087
00:42:02,390 --> 00:42:00,960
from hadn't been operating it wasn't

1088
00:42:04,970 --> 00:42:02,400
operating until three years afterwards

1089
00:42:06,710 --> 00:42:04,980
or something like that so and also the

1090
00:42:08,810 --> 00:42:06,720
times it went the height it was at

1091
00:42:11,150 --> 00:42:08,820
there's a whole real a lot of things you

1092
00:42:12,770 --> 00:42:11,160
can go into that just say it's not the

1093
00:42:14,450 --> 00:42:12,780
case but there were other cases around

1094
00:42:16,910 --> 00:42:14,460
the same time where there were head-on

1095
00:42:18,410 --> 00:42:16,920
passes by objects at airplanes the

1096
00:42:20,630 --> 00:42:18,420
George Goldman case first of October

1097
00:42:22,550 --> 00:42:20,640
1948 is one of them there'd also been

1098
00:42:25,609 --> 00:42:22,560
things from World War II where they'd

1099
00:42:27,890 --> 00:42:25,619
been head-on passes by lights and they'd

1100
00:42:30,290 --> 00:42:27,900
been the mission 115 or schweinfelt

1101
00:42:31,849 --> 00:42:30,300
where a show of things fell on on the

1102
00:42:35,450 --> 00:42:31,859
aircraft and one struck an aircraft

1103
00:42:37,790 --> 00:42:35,460
allegedly so there are cases of sort of

1104
00:42:39,470 --> 00:42:37,800
impacts at least with odd things and and

1105
00:42:41,210 --> 00:42:39,480
aircraft but whether or not it's

1106
00:42:43,550 --> 00:42:41,220
actually a reported Collision then

1107
00:42:45,770 --> 00:42:43,560
that's a different story and to do in in

1108
00:42:48,170 --> 00:42:45,780
terms of their cases that they have

1109
00:42:49,609 --> 00:42:48,180
these 510 cases that were collected then

1110
00:42:51,290 --> 00:42:49,619
they could well be corrected so they've

1111
00:42:53,630 --> 00:42:51,300
been very important collisions but I bet

1112
00:42:55,370 --> 00:42:53,640
there's been the emissions sure well we

1113
00:42:57,230 --> 00:42:55,380
know that yeah

1114
00:42:58,490 --> 00:42:57,240
um health concerns interesting I think

1115
00:43:00,410 --> 00:42:58,500
it was Katie Holland who actually

1116
00:43:02,270 --> 00:43:00,420
pointed this out to me

1117
00:43:04,730 --> 00:43:02,280
um or mentioned on Twitter I can't

1118
00:43:06,349 --> 00:43:04,740
remember which you the way they talk

1119
00:43:08,690 --> 00:43:06,359
about adverse health effects UAP

1120
00:43:11,150 --> 00:43:08,700
confirmed there have been no encounters

1121
00:43:14,089 --> 00:43:11,160
with UAP confirmed to contribute

1122
00:43:16,910 --> 00:43:14,099
directly to Everest health related

1123
00:43:19,309 --> 00:43:16,920
effects to the Observer so confirmed to

1124
00:43:22,130 --> 00:43:19,319
contribute directly first of all UAP

1125
00:43:23,930 --> 00:43:22,140
stands for unidentified right so if

1126
00:43:25,490 --> 00:43:23,940
something's unidentified how are you

1127
00:43:27,349 --> 00:43:25,500
going to know if it actually did

1128
00:43:29,750 --> 00:43:27,359
something bad to somebody especially if

1129
00:43:31,790 --> 00:43:29,760
it's with some RF or electromagnetic

1130
00:43:34,550 --> 00:43:31,800
frequency you know you're you're not

1131
00:43:36,290 --> 00:43:34,560
gonna be able to to prove something like

1132
00:43:37,849 --> 00:43:36,300
that really so

1133
00:43:40,550 --> 00:43:37,859
yeah I think what's important with that

1134
00:43:42,470 --> 00:43:40,560
as well is that the cases looked at Prim

1135
00:43:44,589 --> 00:43:42,480
predominantly in this report were from

1136
00:43:47,930 --> 00:43:44,599
the one year period

1137
00:43:49,309 --> 00:43:47,940
2021-2022 And if you think about cases

1138
00:43:51,650 --> 00:43:49,319
that we've heard of historically that

1139
00:43:53,990 --> 00:43:51,660
involve adverse health effects a lot of

1140
00:43:56,270 --> 00:43:54,000
the cases they don't seem to spring up

1141
00:43:58,849 --> 00:43:56,280
with any negative effects maybe for a

1142
00:44:01,190 --> 00:43:58,859
year two three longer down the road so

1143
00:44:03,890 --> 00:44:01,200
something to bear in mind I think yeah

1144
00:44:05,690 --> 00:44:03,900
like uh the rental shrimp case Burrows

1145
00:44:07,730 --> 00:44:05,700
didn't know about it yeah yeah and that

1146
00:44:11,150 --> 00:44:07,740
he was kind of screwed up until later

1147
00:44:13,790 --> 00:44:11,160
and that's a confirmed case because the

1148
00:44:17,089 --> 00:44:13,800
government ponied up money

1149
00:44:18,770 --> 00:44:17,099
um to pay him for for what he went

1150
00:44:24,470 --> 00:44:18,780
through there so that's a confirmed

1151
00:44:26,450 --> 00:44:24,480
Health effect from a UAP so I mean I can

1152
00:44:28,790 --> 00:44:26,460
think of have been instant effects would

1153
00:44:30,890 --> 00:44:28,800
be Cashland room 1980 and also the

1154
00:44:33,230 --> 00:44:30,900
Falcon Lake uh case where you have that

1155
00:44:34,870 --> 00:44:33,240
uh grid over his chest and there have

1156
00:44:37,430 --> 00:44:34,880
been there have been others like

1157
00:44:39,770 --> 00:44:37,440
there was a young girl who said she got

1158
00:44:41,410 --> 00:44:39,780
burned or whatever but as far as like

1159
00:44:43,670 --> 00:44:41,420
you know this of government

1160
00:44:45,410 --> 00:44:43,680
documentation that we're paying you

1161
00:44:47,450 --> 00:44:45,420
because of the health effects you

1162
00:44:48,890 --> 00:44:47,460
encountered during this UAP incident but

1163
00:44:50,150 --> 00:44:48,900
also what about psychological effects

1164
00:44:51,530 --> 00:44:50,160
because that health effects as well

1165
00:44:53,510 --> 00:44:51,540
aren't they yeah sure they've been

1166
00:44:55,550 --> 00:44:53,520
damaged through con you know through

1167
00:44:58,730 --> 00:44:55,560
alleged contact and sightings and all

1168
00:45:01,190 --> 00:44:58,740
the rest of it so you know you could add

1169
00:45:02,930 --> 00:45:01,200
that to that list and if they do this

1170
00:45:04,430 --> 00:45:02,940
historical you know sort of uh

1171
00:45:06,290 --> 00:45:04,440
retrospective they're going to find a

1172
00:45:09,710 --> 00:45:06,300
lot of cases that do which before that

1173
00:45:11,329 --> 00:45:09,720
remate yeah uh UAP continue to represent

1174
00:45:13,790 --> 00:45:11,339
a hazard of flight safety impose a

1175
00:45:16,250 --> 00:45:13,800
possible adversary collection threat you

1176
00:45:18,710 --> 00:45:16,260
know I know this this may seem like a

1177
00:45:21,109 --> 00:45:18,720
leap to some people but a possible

1178
00:45:24,230 --> 00:45:21,119
adversary collection threat doesn't just

1179
00:45:27,650 --> 00:45:24,240
mean Russia or China you know in the uh

1180
00:45:30,230 --> 00:45:27,660
event that uh let's say aliens were here

1181
00:45:32,690 --> 00:45:30,240
in a flying saucer hovering over our

1182
00:45:35,950 --> 00:45:32,700
nuclear stuff that would fall into

1183
00:45:38,630 --> 00:45:35,960
possible adversary collection threat

1184
00:45:40,550 --> 00:45:38,640
you know so that's something to keep in

1185
00:45:42,530 --> 00:45:40,560
mind too as far as another intelligence

1186
00:45:44,450 --> 00:45:42,540
if it was you know a lot of people say

1187
00:45:45,829 --> 00:45:44,460
they're here watching us or whatever or

1188
00:45:47,390 --> 00:45:45,839
they're concerned with their nukes if

1189
00:45:49,970 --> 00:45:47,400
they're flying around that stuff that

1190
00:45:52,089 --> 00:45:49,980
would fall right into that so you know

1191
00:45:56,270 --> 00:45:52,099
they're not gonna do a separate one for

1192
00:45:58,730 --> 00:45:56,280
balloon-like entities you know so

1193
00:46:01,609 --> 00:45:58,740
coordinated efforts between DOD that I

1194
00:46:02,329 --> 00:46:01,619
see and other government agencies

1195
00:46:04,609 --> 00:46:02,339
um

1196
00:46:06,290 --> 00:46:04,619
so this is just kind of goes to stuff we

1197
00:46:08,990 --> 00:46:06,300
talked about already a whole government

1198
00:46:11,470 --> 00:46:09,000
robust approach

1199
00:46:15,050 --> 00:46:11,480
This Is The Stuff Congress wants to see

1200
00:46:17,390 --> 00:46:15,060
these appendix appendixes at the end is

1201
00:46:18,589 --> 00:46:17,400
exactly what Congress want to see and

1202
00:46:20,510 --> 00:46:18,599
then what they want to see them actually

1203
00:46:22,010 --> 00:46:20,520
follow through with what they're asking

1204
00:46:24,109 --> 00:46:22,020
what they're saying they're going to do

1205
00:46:26,450 --> 00:46:24,119
because this is still to me this is

1206
00:46:29,390 --> 00:46:26,460
still the very start and early days of

1207
00:46:31,790 --> 00:46:29,400
Arrow you know yeah Patrick just jumped

1208
00:46:33,710 --> 00:46:31,800
in and and to me it kind of and we'll

1209
00:46:35,569 --> 00:46:33,720
get to this but um here I just

1210
00:46:38,210 --> 00:46:35,579
highlighted you know requirement not

1211
00:46:40,970 --> 00:46:38,220
later in the 31st October that didn't

1212
00:46:45,050 --> 00:46:42,410
um but all these things that they didn't

1213
00:46:46,309 --> 00:46:45,060
give us any information on yada yada you

1214
00:46:47,270 --> 00:46:46,319
know which would have been nice to get

1215
00:46:47,930 --> 00:46:47,280
but

1216
00:46:51,170 --> 00:46:47,940
um

1217
00:46:54,230 --> 00:46:51,180
you can kind of tell the the difference

1218
00:46:57,109 --> 00:46:54,240
at least right now in between

1219
00:47:00,770 --> 00:46:57,119
um what the status quo was and what it

1220
00:47:03,589 --> 00:47:00,780
may be with Sean Kirkpatrick this report

1221
00:47:05,650 --> 00:47:03,599
you don't really get much right but when

1222
00:47:08,150 --> 00:47:05,660
you look at

1223
00:47:10,130 --> 00:47:08,160
what I get from this report is a lot of

1224
00:47:12,710 --> 00:47:10,140
ideas like here's where we are we

1225
00:47:14,510 --> 00:47:12,720
gathered all these reports

1226
00:47:16,370 --> 00:47:14,520
um and we don't really know but it's

1227
00:47:18,349 --> 00:47:16,380
mandated to tell you something so we got

1228
00:47:23,210 --> 00:47:18,359
to tell you something yeah um so here

1229
00:47:26,510 --> 00:47:23,220
you go and then when we kind of get into

1230
00:47:28,970 --> 00:47:26,520
um what came out as far as Sean

1231
00:47:32,329 --> 00:47:28,980
Kirkpatrick's

1232
00:47:34,970 --> 00:47:32,339
um slides you can kind of see what the

1233
00:47:37,670 --> 00:47:34,980
intent is now exactly it's a lot clearer

1234
00:47:39,530 --> 00:47:37,680
in this right so we kind of looked at

1235
00:47:43,790 --> 00:47:39,540
where they're at which is not very far

1236
00:47:46,250 --> 00:47:43,800
they just have a bunch of uh cases

1237
00:47:48,849 --> 00:47:46,260
most of which don't seem to even be

1238
00:47:53,510 --> 00:47:48,859
positively identified

1239
00:47:55,550 --> 00:47:53,520
and no we have the planet action so so

1240
00:47:57,470 --> 00:47:55,560
this is pretty interesting it's all

1241
00:47:59,690 --> 00:47:57,480
stuff that seems like it was in the

1242
00:48:00,950 --> 00:47:59,700
Congressional language already I mean

1243
00:48:02,690 --> 00:48:00,960
here they're using unidentified

1244
00:48:05,150 --> 00:48:02,700
anomalous phenomenon so you can see

1245
00:48:07,010 --> 00:48:05,160
there's a switch over from aerial to

1246
00:48:09,829 --> 00:48:07,020
anomalous but that way you see it says

1247
00:48:11,930 --> 00:48:09,839
spaceborne Airborne sebon ortrans medium

1248
00:48:14,510 --> 00:48:11,940
light that's what we want to see bold

1249
00:48:16,130 --> 00:48:14,520
yeah that's it there's no like does that

1250
00:48:18,730 --> 00:48:16,140
mean trans medium does it mean this

1251
00:48:22,430 --> 00:48:18,740
doesn't mean we're getting clear clear

1252
00:48:26,030 --> 00:48:23,809
um well yeah which is completely

1253
00:48:28,010 --> 00:48:26,040
important so there's really technical

1254
00:48:29,690 --> 00:48:28,020
stuff here

1255
00:48:31,670 --> 00:48:29,700
um you know minimize Technical and

1256
00:48:33,530 --> 00:48:31,680
intelligence surprise you know that's

1257
00:48:36,290 --> 00:48:33,540
always the goal of whoever's looking at

1258
00:48:38,510 --> 00:48:36,300
these UFOs right Graham like even attic

1259
00:48:41,270 --> 00:48:38,520
yeah during Blue Book that that was

1260
00:48:44,390 --> 00:48:41,280
their real mission of course to you know

1261
00:48:46,550 --> 00:48:44,400
avoid surprise like that so

1262
00:48:48,650 --> 00:48:46,560
um so that makes complete sense

1263
00:48:50,210 --> 00:48:48,660
their Vision unidentified anomalous

1264
00:48:52,069 --> 00:48:50,220
objects are effectively and efficiently

1265
00:48:54,109 --> 00:48:52,079
detected tract analyzed and managed by

1266
00:48:56,270 --> 00:48:54,119
way of normalized DOD IC and civil

1267
00:48:57,710 --> 00:48:56,280
business practices by adherence to the

1268
00:48:59,750 --> 00:48:57,720
highest scientific and intelligence

1269
00:49:01,970 --> 00:48:59,760
trait graph standards greater

1270
00:49:04,550 --> 00:49:01,980
transparency and shared awareness you

1271
00:49:07,190 --> 00:49:04,560
had to have Chad GPT right there because

1272
00:49:09,589 --> 00:49:07,200
that is just wonderful before you scroll

1273
00:49:12,710 --> 00:49:09,599
the the Box on the right hand side the

1274
00:49:14,390 --> 00:49:12,720
second Point down it says the Gap and

1275
00:49:16,010 --> 00:49:14,400
right at the end of that sentence the

1276
00:49:19,670 --> 00:49:16,020
gap between phenomena and the United

1277
00:49:20,990 --> 00:49:19,680
States as far as technological you know

1278
00:49:22,250 --> 00:49:21,000
that's what they're going to be looking

1279
00:49:25,130 --> 00:49:22,260
at you know when they talk about

1280
00:49:26,990 --> 00:49:25,140
capabilities that seem anomalous you

1281
00:49:28,849 --> 00:49:27,000
know this is what they're looking at

1282
00:49:30,290 --> 00:49:28,859
they're looking at how far Advanced are

1283
00:49:32,030 --> 00:49:30,300
the things that we're witnessing to what

1284
00:49:34,630 --> 00:49:32,040
we know we're capable of

1285
00:49:38,750 --> 00:49:36,829
do you see the other one as well the

1286
00:49:41,450 --> 00:49:38,760
second from bottom is indications of

1287
00:49:44,030 --> 00:49:41,460
foreign observation of and reaction to

1288
00:49:45,650 --> 00:49:44,040
phenomena yeah so that was an

1289
00:49:49,069 --> 00:49:45,660
interesting one as well are they looking

1290
00:49:52,130 --> 00:49:49,079
at what other other countries are coming

1291
00:49:54,829 --> 00:49:52,140
up with and that's could be why

1292
00:49:57,410 --> 00:49:54,839
Kirkpatrick linked this like Chinese

1293
00:50:00,589 --> 00:49:57,420
yeah exactly that was the only link on

1294
00:50:02,710 --> 00:50:00,599
the whole slide right went straight to

1295
00:50:05,329 --> 00:50:02,720
China so straight to your Chinese

1296
00:50:07,790 --> 00:50:05,339
wanting to collaborate on on looking at

1297
00:50:09,650 --> 00:50:07,800
UAP yeah so China's looking at UAP

1298
00:50:11,089 --> 00:50:09,660
they're actually you know at least

1299
00:50:13,609 --> 00:50:11,099
supposedly

1300
00:50:16,309 --> 00:50:13,619
um using AI to help them out artificial

1301
00:50:18,410 --> 00:50:16,319
intelligence so you know a lot of this

1302
00:50:21,530 --> 00:50:18,420
comes down to why

1303
00:50:23,630 --> 00:50:21,540
the U.S government started remote

1304
00:50:25,190 --> 00:50:23,640
viewing and looking at parapsychology

1305
00:50:27,000 --> 00:50:25,200
why did they do that they did that

1306
00:50:29,690 --> 00:50:27,010
because they learned Russia was

1307
00:50:31,790 --> 00:50:29,700
[Laughter]

1308
00:50:33,890 --> 00:50:31,800
so if China is looking at this too

1309
00:50:35,990 --> 00:50:33,900
Russia is looking at this too they have

1310
00:50:38,930 --> 00:50:36,000
to look at it you know because that goes

1311
00:50:40,790 --> 00:50:38,940
against one of their missions which is

1312
00:50:42,710 --> 00:50:40,800
avoiding or minimizing technical

1313
00:50:47,150 --> 00:50:42,720
intelligence surprise like if they get

1314
00:50:50,569 --> 00:50:48,530
um they're using words like the safety

1315
00:50:53,089 --> 00:50:50,579
of civil society as well

1316
00:50:54,410 --> 00:50:53,099
yeah we talked about civil aviation in

1317
00:50:56,870 --> 00:50:54,420
the report but now we're talking about

1318
00:50:58,809 --> 00:50:56,880
Society I mean this is kind of scary

1319
00:51:02,809 --> 00:50:58,819
there's a lot more telling

1320
00:51:06,650 --> 00:51:03,589
um

1321
00:51:08,870 --> 00:51:06,660
reporting on UAP proximity Street we

1322
00:51:10,670 --> 00:51:08,880
already kind of but I thought this was

1323
00:51:15,230 --> 00:51:10,680
interesting critical infrastructure

1324
00:51:18,470 --> 00:51:15,240
primarily historical hmm so they're

1325
00:51:19,910 --> 00:51:18,480
primarily historical analysis yeah like

1326
00:51:21,530 --> 00:51:19,920
Maelstrom and all that kind of stuff

1327
00:51:23,150 --> 00:51:21,540
that's what it says isn't it that's like

1328
00:51:24,829 --> 00:51:23,160
and we've heard that you know Robert

1329
00:51:27,530 --> 00:51:24,839
Salas himself has said that he's been

1330
00:51:28,670 --> 00:51:27,540
asked to a brief Arrow directly so I

1331
00:51:30,710 --> 00:51:28,680
assume he's going to sit down with

1332
00:51:32,510 --> 00:51:30,720
Kirkpatrick and whoever Patrick has with

1333
00:51:34,790 --> 00:51:32,520
him some Deputy or something like that

1334
00:51:36,109 --> 00:51:34,800
and Mario Woods said the same thing so

1335
00:51:38,390 --> 00:51:36,119
he's

1336
00:51:40,490 --> 00:51:38,400
um talking to them as well I guess have

1337
00:51:43,010 --> 00:51:40,500
you spoken to Mario yeah a little bit

1338
00:51:46,010 --> 00:51:43,020
and he said a total of eight people

1339
00:51:47,990 --> 00:51:46,020
are were picked so he's interviewed him

1340
00:51:49,730 --> 00:51:48,000
yet no that's on Wednesday but he said

1341
00:51:52,910 --> 00:51:49,740
he said this

1342
00:51:54,170 --> 00:51:52,920
um like the last podcast he was on yeah

1343
00:51:57,170 --> 00:51:54,180
so

1344
00:51:59,109 --> 00:51:57,180
forward like the strengthening

1345
00:52:01,069 --> 00:51:59,119
observations and uh reporting around

1346
00:52:02,809 --> 00:52:01,079
similar places on there because that's

1347
00:52:06,170 --> 00:52:02,819
the bottom bit of that particular uh

1348
00:52:09,410 --> 00:52:06,180
column so there clearly notes an issue

1349
00:52:11,210 --> 00:52:09,420
um but you know the experts uh that

1350
00:52:13,329 --> 00:52:11,220
appeared at the hearings didn't seem to

1351
00:52:15,410 --> 00:52:13,339
have a clue about it did they

1352
00:52:18,470 --> 00:52:15,420
who has actually talked about this

1353
00:52:21,049 --> 00:52:18,480
before and I think maybe John Ramirez

1354
00:52:22,849 --> 00:52:21,059
but consequence of such moderate to high

1355
00:52:25,190 --> 00:52:22,859
potential leading to adversarial

1356
00:52:27,530 --> 00:52:25,200
misattribution of UAP to the United

1357
00:52:29,450 --> 00:52:27,540
States so you know something coming in

1358
00:52:31,190 --> 00:52:29,460
on your radar you think it's a ballistic

1359
00:52:36,849 --> 00:52:31,200
missile or something all hell breaks

1360
00:52:41,630 --> 00:52:39,650
yeah it's just a balloon entity don't

1361
00:52:46,150 --> 00:52:41,640
shoot back

1362
00:52:52,309 --> 00:52:48,950
uh you can kind of tell Lou and Chris

1363
00:52:54,109 --> 00:52:52,319
melon had their hands and maybe not this

1364
00:52:56,510 --> 00:52:54,119
directly I can't I don't know I wouldn't

1365
00:52:58,010 --> 00:52:56,520
be able to say but I've heard it I've

1366
00:53:00,230 --> 00:52:58,020
heard them talk about a lot of this

1367
00:53:02,150 --> 00:53:00,240
stuff before you know yeah I mean you

1368
00:53:03,770 --> 00:53:02,160
have to mention melon's points that he

1369
00:53:06,370 --> 00:53:03,780
raised after the release of the article

1370
00:53:09,109 --> 00:53:06,380
as well uh the report sorry

1371
00:53:12,890 --> 00:53:09,119
these uh this language

1372
00:53:16,609 --> 00:53:12,900
interesting enigmatic signatures

1373
00:53:18,710 --> 00:53:16,619
um so yeah that's you know revealing

1374
00:53:20,569 --> 00:53:18,720
that these could be all over the place

1375
00:53:25,549 --> 00:53:20,579
basically

1376
00:53:31,970 --> 00:53:28,430
um subject to UAP Laden with here they

1377
00:53:34,849 --> 00:53:31,980
uh you know try to you know hit the UFO

1378
00:53:36,410 --> 00:53:34,859
crowd here subject to uap's Latin with

1379
00:53:39,109 --> 00:53:36,420
Decades of imprecise and often

1380
00:53:41,089 --> 00:53:39,119
Sensational information I can't disagree

1381
00:53:42,170 --> 00:53:41,099
I can't either but the good thing in the

1382
00:53:43,849 --> 00:53:42,180
other side of this is that they're

1383
00:53:46,970 --> 00:53:43,859
talking about potentially briefing

1384
00:53:48,470 --> 00:53:46,980
aviators on these these kind of things

1385
00:53:49,910 --> 00:53:48,480
which sounds like they're going to be

1386
00:53:51,829 --> 00:53:49,920
offering up more information to the

1387
00:53:53,809 --> 00:53:51,839
aviators to say this is what you need to

1388
00:53:56,030 --> 00:53:53,819
look out for here's some examples almost

1389
00:53:59,750 --> 00:53:56,040
giving them access to more data and

1390
00:54:02,270 --> 00:53:59,760
sensor data and and that on UAP which is

1391
00:54:04,910 --> 00:54:02,280
not necessarily a bad thing in the long

1392
00:54:07,430 --> 00:54:04,920
in the big picture necessarily for you

1393
00:54:09,170 --> 00:54:07,440
UFO Community but I can't believe

1394
00:54:11,329 --> 00:54:09,180
they're further down the road wouldn't

1395
00:54:13,010 --> 00:54:11,339
have done that a long time ago yeah well

1396
00:54:15,290 --> 00:54:13,020
but we're talking about these reporting

1397
00:54:16,609 --> 00:54:15,300
systems that arrow is bringing in it's

1398
00:54:18,770 --> 00:54:16,619
probably the first time we're hearing

1399
00:54:21,650 --> 00:54:18,780
about the Air Force reporting to this

1400
00:54:24,829 --> 00:54:21,660
system as well so again it's a first

1401
00:54:26,569 --> 00:54:24,839
another first and so let's wait until we

1402
00:54:29,510 --> 00:54:26,579
see second third fourth fifth further

1403
00:54:31,250 --> 00:54:29,520
down the road you know yeah

1404
00:54:33,230 --> 00:54:31,260
um this is interesting characteristics

1405
00:54:35,870 --> 00:54:33,240
including physical state solid liquid

1406
00:54:38,390 --> 00:54:35,880
gas plasma

1407
00:54:40,250 --> 00:54:38,400
size shape color we'll never see any of

1408
00:54:43,150 --> 00:54:40,260
that but it's interesting that they're

1409
00:54:46,790 --> 00:54:43,160
looking for it it is definitely

1410
00:54:48,710 --> 00:54:46,800
enigmatic capabilities

1411
00:54:52,309 --> 00:54:48,720
some serious buzzwords in this isn't

1412
00:54:54,890 --> 00:54:52,319
there yeah oh yes I don't even know how

1413
00:54:57,470 --> 00:54:54,900
Dean got this you know he's just sharing

1414
00:55:01,250 --> 00:54:57,480
a Google drive folder I'm like okay

1415
00:55:04,790 --> 00:55:01,260
yeah I think it was quite accessible

1416
00:55:07,670 --> 00:55:04,800
I got sent it oh you did okay UAP

1417
00:55:08,870 --> 00:55:07,680
behavior and under apparent intelligent

1418
00:55:11,390 --> 00:55:08,880
control

1419
00:55:12,950 --> 00:55:11,400
parent response to observation and or

1420
00:55:14,630 --> 00:55:12,960
Observer presence and apparent

1421
00:55:18,109 --> 00:55:14,640
indications of indifference or hostility

1422
00:55:20,750 --> 00:55:18,119
so this is intent you know figuring out

1423
00:55:21,770 --> 00:55:20,760
intent of whatever it is

1424
00:55:24,230 --> 00:55:21,780
um over to the right hand side

1425
00:55:27,950 --> 00:55:24,240
physiological uh psychological or other

1426
00:55:31,609 --> 00:55:29,870
so you know this is all stuff that

1427
00:55:35,569 --> 00:55:31,619
Congress wants to hear too like like

1428
00:55:40,370 --> 00:55:38,270
um so yeah that's it and

1429
00:55:42,950 --> 00:55:40,380
he gave this to the defense Department's

1430
00:55:45,470 --> 00:55:42,960
UAP Mission and civil aviation one last

1431
00:55:47,870 --> 00:55:45,480
thing um if you can if you can see the

1432
00:55:49,809 --> 00:55:47,880
badge on the right hand side there uh

1433
00:55:53,390 --> 00:55:49,819
the new um emblem

1434
00:55:57,109 --> 00:55:53,400
yes so have you seen the information in

1435
00:56:02,950 --> 00:55:57,119
the Latin uh which says Universal EST

1436
00:56:08,510 --> 00:56:06,049
and what it means is universal this is a

1437
00:56:10,370 --> 00:56:08,520
loose translation our universe is

1438
00:56:11,750 --> 00:56:10,380
changing our life is what our thoughts

1439
00:56:14,990 --> 00:56:11,760
make it

1440
00:56:17,150 --> 00:56:15,000
it's pretty intense huh

1441
00:56:19,870 --> 00:56:17,160
pretty interesting isn't it

1442
00:56:24,230 --> 00:56:19,880
what do you mean

1443
00:56:25,730 --> 00:56:24,240
um that about wraps it up for that stuff

1444
00:56:27,770 --> 00:56:25,740
the only other thing I put in there is

1445
00:56:29,150 --> 00:56:27,780
kind of the new Navy documents but

1446
00:56:31,970 --> 00:56:29,160
there's not much that you can really

1447
00:56:33,770 --> 00:56:31,980
take from those the Tic Tac slide is

1448
00:56:35,870 --> 00:56:33,780
pretty interesting yeah that was

1449
00:56:36,950 --> 00:56:35,880
interesting definitely so I put this in

1450
00:56:39,049 --> 00:56:36,960
here

1451
00:56:42,109 --> 00:56:39,059
um the Tic Tac seems to be like the

1452
00:56:43,510 --> 00:56:42,119
bread and butter like this is the uh

1453
00:56:46,370 --> 00:56:43,520
bona fide

1454
00:56:49,010 --> 00:56:46,380
unidentified can't

1455
00:56:51,589 --> 00:56:49,020
really screw with this case this crazy

1456
00:56:52,849 --> 00:56:51,599
this case is unbelievable did you see

1457
00:56:54,770 --> 00:56:52,859
all the range Fowler forms that were

1458
00:56:56,630 --> 00:56:54,780
released at the same time as that I saw

1459
00:56:58,430 --> 00:56:56,640
those yeah and those seemed pretty

1460
00:57:00,109 --> 00:56:58,440
annoying to go through it was annoying I

1461
00:57:01,870 --> 00:57:00,119
went through them and it took a long

1462
00:57:05,750 --> 00:57:01,880
time and I was trying to pick out

1463
00:57:09,130 --> 00:57:05,760
keywords around the redacted bits oh man

1464
00:57:12,890 --> 00:57:09,140
it's right it's like a crossword

1465
00:57:16,069 --> 00:57:12,900
in the world yeah

1466
00:57:17,990 --> 00:57:16,079
um so yeah that about does it for that

1467
00:57:20,089 --> 00:57:18,000
the one thing that we could kind of go

1468
00:57:20,930 --> 00:57:20,099
out talking about here if you guys have

1469
00:57:24,410 --> 00:57:20,940
time

1470
00:57:30,290 --> 00:57:26,690
um just about the

1471
00:57:31,849 --> 00:57:30,300
the way the media is covering it so far

1472
00:57:33,470 --> 00:57:31,859
I think I'd just like to interject

1473
00:57:35,630 --> 00:57:33,480
before we touch upon that is that we had

1474
00:57:37,970 --> 00:57:35,640
two statements one for Marco Rubio and

1475
00:57:40,309 --> 00:57:37,980
one from Margaret Warner as well they

1476
00:57:42,589 --> 00:57:40,319
were quite positive about the outcome of

1477
00:57:44,450 --> 00:57:42,599
the report which says to me that they're

1478
00:57:47,270 --> 00:57:44,460
quite happy with what they're getting

1479
00:57:48,650 --> 00:57:47,280
you know behind closed doors as well and

1480
00:57:50,410 --> 00:57:48,660
we've had enough people talking about

1481
00:57:52,430 --> 00:57:50,420
whistleblowers coming forward already

1482
00:57:54,349 --> 00:57:52,440
you know when it comes to the language

1483
00:57:56,329 --> 00:57:54,359
we've seen in the ndaa for the fiscal

1484
00:57:58,970 --> 00:57:56,339
year 2023 so

1485
00:58:00,650 --> 00:57:58,980
that's positive you know again it's not

1486
00:58:01,910 --> 00:58:00,660
necessarily positive for the public but

1487
00:58:04,010 --> 00:58:01,920
it says that things are still working

1488
00:58:06,290 --> 00:58:04,020
and you know that gives us something to

1489
00:58:07,690 --> 00:58:06,300
look forward to further down the line

1490
00:58:10,970 --> 00:58:07,700
Maybe

1491
00:58:12,530 --> 00:58:10,980
here's the the overall positive if we

1492
00:58:13,430 --> 00:58:12,540
couldn't have this conversation 10 years

1493
00:58:15,950 --> 00:58:13,440
ago

1494
00:58:17,390 --> 00:58:15,960
there you go so if you're going to take

1495
00:58:19,010 --> 00:58:17,400
anything positive from anything that's

1496
00:58:20,569 --> 00:58:19,020
happened in the moment you know call it

1497
00:58:22,430 --> 00:58:20,579
a nothing Burger call it cut and paste

1498
00:58:25,309 --> 00:58:22,440
Burger call it what you want 10 years

1499
00:58:27,049 --> 00:58:25,319
ago we were not in this position and we

1500
00:58:29,870 --> 00:58:27,059
know who we have to thank for that so

1501
00:58:34,270 --> 00:58:29,880
yeah I mean my life was a wreck I was 28

1502
00:58:37,069 --> 00:58:34,280
years old let's not go there okay

1503
00:58:39,109 --> 00:58:37,079
no this is uh this is interesting so as

1504
00:58:41,990 --> 00:58:39,119
far as like the media uh covering this

1505
00:58:43,730 --> 00:58:42,000
stuff so this is Dan I want to thank Dan

1506
00:58:46,010 --> 00:58:43,740
I forgot what his name the last name was

1507
00:58:47,770 --> 00:58:46,020
but uh he posted there's just kind of

1508
00:58:50,630 --> 00:58:47,780
the differences of what's being reported

1509
00:58:52,190 --> 00:58:50,640
uh a U.S official told CBS news that

1510
00:58:54,230 --> 00:58:52,200
none of the incidents have yet been

1511
00:58:56,990 --> 00:58:54,240
definitively linked to China or Russia

1512
00:58:59,030 --> 00:58:57,000
or any other country you go to I believe

1513
00:59:01,370 --> 00:58:59,040
this is New York Times some of the

1514
00:59:03,410 --> 00:59:01,380
incidents have been formally attributed

1515
00:59:05,809 --> 00:59:03,420
to Chinese surveillance with relatively

1516
00:59:07,370 --> 00:59:05,819
ordinary drone technology and connected

1517
00:59:10,130 --> 00:59:07,380
to Beijing China

1518
00:59:11,930 --> 00:59:10,140
like that's that word characterized

1519
00:59:15,589 --> 00:59:11,940
yeah some people are taking that as

1520
00:59:17,329 --> 00:59:15,599
identified as instead of what we saw in

1521
00:59:18,370 --> 00:59:17,339
the report where does that come from

1522
00:59:20,809 --> 00:59:18,380
anyway

1523
00:59:24,010 --> 00:59:20,819
because those two those two statements

1524
00:59:29,270 --> 00:59:26,870
so it you know I guess it's good just

1525
00:59:31,490 --> 00:59:29,280
good for people to know like in in these

1526
00:59:33,470 --> 00:59:31,500
instances you can read that kind of

1527
00:59:36,530 --> 00:59:33,480
stuff but but don't

1528
00:59:39,410 --> 00:59:36,540
um don't Bank on it you know like it

1529
00:59:40,549 --> 00:59:39,420
it's clear that we're seeing these

1530
00:59:42,170 --> 00:59:40,559
different media Outlets put their

1531
00:59:45,230 --> 00:59:42,180
different spins on it you know like one

1532
00:59:47,569 --> 00:59:45,240
media Outlet will say uh most of the

1533
00:59:49,910 --> 00:59:47,579
events have been identified as

1534
00:59:52,130 --> 00:59:49,920
Space trash you know

1535
00:59:55,130 --> 00:59:52,140
um balloon entities and satellites or

1536
00:59:56,089 --> 00:59:55,140
whatever and then the other one says you

1537
01:00:01,490 --> 00:59:56,099
know

1538
01:00:03,289 --> 01:00:01,500
these people are putting their different

1539
01:00:05,030 --> 01:00:03,299
influence and their different spin on it

1540
01:00:06,890 --> 01:00:05,040
in the media so you have to be aware of

1541
01:00:09,710 --> 01:00:06,900
that when you look at it you know and be

1542
01:00:11,750 --> 01:00:09,720
aware that some people like um hardcore

1543
01:00:15,170 --> 01:00:11,760
to bunkers or whatever are gonna post

1544
01:00:18,650 --> 01:00:15,180
the articles that use kind of a negative

1545
01:00:19,910 --> 01:00:18,660
um a sense of it so be aware that when

1546
01:00:20,809 --> 01:00:19,920
you're out there swimming through this

1547
01:00:22,789 --> 01:00:20,819
stuff

1548
01:00:25,849 --> 01:00:22,799
um to just look at the facts you know

1549
01:00:29,030 --> 01:00:25,859
look at the facts which is really as

1550
01:00:32,150 --> 01:00:29,040
unfortunate as and empty as the report

1551
01:00:33,890 --> 01:00:32,160
is that we looked at it gives you the

1552
01:00:35,510 --> 01:00:33,900
facts that you can count on because it's

1553
01:00:37,730 --> 01:00:35,520
in the government's own words and what

1554
01:00:40,250 --> 01:00:37,740
does that say there's 171 unidentified

1555
01:00:43,730 --> 01:00:40,260
in a very small amount of time nearly 47

1556
01:00:46,250 --> 01:00:43,740
or something unidentified officially you

1557
01:00:49,250 --> 01:00:46,260
know and if you take that back to 1952

1558
01:00:50,930 --> 01:00:49,260
you know when they said 20 were well we

1559
01:00:53,569 --> 01:00:50,940
have a lot better sensors and Technology

1560
01:00:55,490 --> 01:00:53,579
right now you know and we're doing way

1561
01:00:57,950 --> 01:00:55,500
worse than we were in 1952 with this

1562
01:01:01,069 --> 01:00:57,960
stuff so there is something

1563
01:01:02,510 --> 01:01:01,079
um that's a problem you know so

1564
01:01:06,950 --> 01:01:02,520
yeah

1565
01:01:08,990 --> 01:01:06,960
um but that's all I got for this gig

1566
01:01:10,910 --> 01:01:09,000
you guys got anything else that you

1567
01:01:12,410 --> 01:01:10,920
that's on your mind or anything else you

1568
01:01:13,910 --> 01:01:12,420
want to talk I suppose the only thing

1569
01:01:15,530 --> 01:01:13,920
would be that you mentioned earlier that

1570
01:01:18,049 --> 01:01:15,540
the kind of media was silent when it

1571
01:01:19,670 --> 01:01:18,059
came to the ndaa and then now they've

1572
01:01:21,170 --> 01:01:19,680
all been kind of really outspoken with

1573
01:01:23,089 --> 01:01:21,180
the release of the report but then the

1574
01:01:25,370 --> 01:01:23,099
New York Times drop an article today yes

1575
01:01:26,990 --> 01:01:25,380
referring back to the ndaa so it was

1576
01:01:29,390 --> 01:01:27,000
like a knock-on effect that the report

1577
01:01:31,609 --> 01:01:29,400
kind of has now giving us this Rush of

1578
01:01:34,609 --> 01:01:31,619
kind of media coverage so better late

1579
01:01:37,010 --> 01:01:34,619
than never I guess definitely I had a

1580
01:01:38,049 --> 01:01:37,020
feeling that would happen too that this

1581
01:01:40,490 --> 01:01:38,059
report

1582
01:01:41,870 --> 01:01:40,500
which way it went I think before they

1583
01:01:44,329 --> 01:01:41,880
decided to come out with much more

1584
01:01:47,530 --> 01:01:44,339
exactly you got you got language in the

1585
01:01:50,270 --> 01:01:47,540
nda8 talking about reverse engineering

1586
01:01:51,829 --> 01:01:50,280
spaceships yeah they don't do that much

1587
01:01:53,990 --> 01:01:51,839
kind of looking at the subject though

1588
01:01:56,030 --> 01:01:54,000
really the media as a whole do they um

1589
01:01:57,890 --> 01:01:56,040
you know that it's all it's all fairly

1590
01:01:59,329 --> 01:01:57,900
superficial in terms of you know

1591
01:02:02,650 --> 01:01:59,339
journalist kind of like you know so

1592
01:02:04,910 --> 01:02:02,660
journalists mostly not all of them but

1593
01:02:06,589 --> 01:02:04,920
it's all fairly kind of softball

1594
01:02:08,930 --> 01:02:06,599
questioning and you only have a few

1595
01:02:11,030 --> 01:02:08,940
people like Ross Colton Brown bender and

1596
01:02:13,789 --> 01:02:11,040
you know who are actually going through

1597
01:02:15,470 --> 01:02:13,799
an insight and George that of course uh

1598
01:02:17,870 --> 01:02:15,480
who are looking and asking you know the

1599
01:02:19,370 --> 01:02:17,880
relevant questions Tom Rogan yeah and

1600
01:02:20,450 --> 01:02:19,380
Tom Rogan yeah

1601
01:02:22,190 --> 01:02:20,460
um

1602
01:02:24,230 --> 01:02:22,200
yeah that's why they have to subscribe

1603
01:02:28,010 --> 01:02:24,240
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1604
01:02:29,750 --> 01:02:28,020
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1605
01:02:31,190 --> 01:02:29,760
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1606
01:02:33,170 --> 01:02:31,200
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1607
01:02:35,930 --> 01:02:33,180
um I appreciate you guys doing this it

1608
01:02:38,030 --> 01:02:35,940
does mean a lot I wanted to do uh

1609
01:02:38,750 --> 01:02:38,040
something about this and yeah you guys

1610
01:02:42,890 --> 01:02:38,760
are

1611
01:02:45,049 --> 01:02:42,900
I wanted other people to join turned out

1612
01:02:47,089 --> 01:02:45,059
it was just the Three Amigos and and

1613
01:02:49,309 --> 01:02:47,099
that worked for me too because they're

1614
01:02:51,470 --> 01:02:49,319
really get on with you guys so

1615
01:02:52,910 --> 01:02:51,480
I appreciate everything you can find

1616
01:02:54,829 --> 01:02:52,920
these chaps

1617
01:02:56,390 --> 01:02:54,839
um in the description of the video

1618
01:02:58,609 --> 01:02:56,400
you can find their contact stuff and all

1619
01:03:01,609 --> 01:02:58,619
that as we're doing this video I can

1620
01:03:04,030 --> 01:03:01,619
feel myself get sicker it's crazy like

1621
01:03:06,829 --> 01:03:04,040
I'm going through it right now

1622
01:03:10,609 --> 01:03:06,839
go and rest so I'm gonna get out of here

1623
01:03:11,930 --> 01:03:10,619
uh I appreciate it and yeah we'll catch

1624
01:03:13,910 --> 01:03:11,940
you next time thanks everybody in the

1625
01:03:16,309 --> 01:03:13,920
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